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Old September 7, 2003, 16:02   #1
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Turkey - England
Anyone up for travelling..? j/k

For those that don't know, due to the combination of England's trouble with "hooliganism" and the fact that two Leeds fans got stabbed to death in Istanbul two years ago, England fans are banned from travelling to Turkey.

However, the president of the Turkish FA has pretty much invited English fans over there.

Interesting situation.

I'd much rather 4000 England fans go over and make a good show of ourselves rather than be sitting ducks like the 200 or so in Macedonia were.
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Old September 7, 2003, 16:05   #2
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What happened in Macedonia?
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What happened in Macedonia?
er...we won?
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What happened in Macedonia?
Apparently only 200 went.
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Bods/ Mr Avenue

Its not just English hooliganism, the Turks are no slouches, as the killings indicate.

I hope Stevie G knocks some heads together on the way to an emphatic win.
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er...we won?
I heard that. I read about spitting and death threats by FYROM players.

It's the way he said 'sitting ducks like the 200...' that made me wonder if something happened to some fans.
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200...' that made me wonder if something happened to some fans.
It must have been like being at Thermopalae (thats got to be a SP!)
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England don't need to win, so they should do ok.
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When a team goes into a game only needing to avoid defeat, it quite often approaches it the wrong way.

See S&M vs Wales for a recent example.
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What about Italy vs England before the '98 WC?
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"Quite often" != always...

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What about Italy vs England before the '98 WC?
Liverpool - Arsenal in '89, we only had to avoid defeat by two clear goals to win the League, played too defensivly and lost 2-0
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Aberystwyth - Rhyl, last weekend.

Aber 2-0 up at half time, 2 goals from Marc Lloyd Williams.

Let's defend the lead...

2-2 at full time.
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hopefully we'll play better than we did in macedonia. might be an idea to have two wingers playing this time, instead of none though :/
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We don't have any wingers, so trying to play some would be poor idea.
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How about Ashley Cole as left-winger, and Dyer on the right. Beckham and gerrard in the middle, with Scholes in the hole and Rooney up top.
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How about Ashley Cole as left-winger, and Dyer on the right. Beckham and gerrard in the middle, with Scholes in the hole and Rooney up top.
Are we going to bother with a left-back? Or is that too old fashioned?
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Phil Neville.
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Nah

I'll give you a clue:

'He's scouse, he's sound
He'll hit you with a pound..........'
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Phil Neville. Best left back in the country. For away games

Geddit?
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Seems that the English either get banned or kicked out wherever they go. I wonder why this is?

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