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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:02 | #121 |  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:02 | #122 |  
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	| Originally posted by David Floyd I have no problem paying on a date. I usually insist on it. Well, "usually" is relative in the sense that a date isn't "usual" for me
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I will only pay for dates occasionally once a girl starts putting out for me.  Up until then,  if you pay for dates then you risk getting played for a fool.  Look, this isn't the 50's and  60's when women were submissive and relied totally on a man for emotional and financial support.  Back then,  a man demonstrated his viability by how well he was able to treat her like a china doll because that was her role in marriage - to be a "pet".   Now women want to be treated as equals.  If women want to be treated as equals then they should give you the same respect as an equal and pay half.  If any demand that you follow the social etiquette of a past generation, then call them on ther bullsh**.  They need to earn your respect by making a fair exchange of money, sex, whatever.  When you've just met them, what have they done to earn the right to accompany you in public and have you pay for their meals?    I've found that women appreciate and respect a man who doesn't supplicate to them by paying for everything and catering to their every wish.    If you do such things and supplicate yourself to women,  they will begin to think "If I can manipulate him this way,  other people can too."  This will make her feel insecure...
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:05 | #123 |  
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			Well, actually my thing about paying on dates is indicative of larger issues. That is, when my friends and I go out, very often I'll pay for all of them. Money isn't a big deal to me - I'm not rich, but I have enough to live decently well, and if someone else can't afford to do what I want to do, I'd rather pay for him/them than not do it at all.
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:08 | #124 |  
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	| Originally posted by Feephi I measure their intelligence by their chest size!
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:08 | #125 |  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:09 | #126 |  
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	| Originally posted by David Floyd Well, actually my thing about paying on dates is indicative of larger issues. That is, when my friends and I go out, very often I'll pay for all of them. Money isn't a big deal to me - I'm not rich, but I have enough to live decently well, and if someone else can't afford to do what I want to do, I'd rather pay for him/them than not do it at all.
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:10 | #127 |  
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			Hehe.
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:19 | #129 |  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:21 | #130 |  
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	| Originally posted by Feephi 
 
 Does that go for all of Europe? Is the reverse true as well?  My girlfriend and I were in a McDonalds in Paris last week and she was freaked out that a guy used the stall next to her in the ladies room (the mens room was locked).
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Not sure really. Here it mainly only happens in bars and things and when there are long queues for the ladies.
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:31 | #131 |  
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			I've seen chicks use the men's room tons of time.  Mostly it's in bars or at sporting events though.
		  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:48 | #132 |  
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	| Money isn't a big deal to me - I'm not rich, but I have enough to live decently well, and if someone else can't afford to do what I want to do, I'd rather pay for him/them than not do it at all |  
	
 
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:49 | #133 |  
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			Nope. It's just that financial aid pays for all of my school and then some, and I work a full time job that pays decently well on top of it, plus my car insurance, gas, and a few other things are already covered. And I split the rest of the bills with a roommate.
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		|  September 9, 2003, 15:55 | #134 |  
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			Most people do split bills with the people they live with, you know?
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		|  September 9, 2003, 16:03 | #135 |  
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			Utilities and rent?  Sure.  Food?  I don't.  I don't consume as much as my roomates, and I eat once a day, so I don't like to split any more than I have to.  The only thing I pay into for is milk and the occasional snack item; I think that's pretty fair.
		  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 16:04 | #136 |  
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			Food isn't a bill.
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		|  September 9, 2003, 16:53 | #137 |  
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			Elok
 I am not certain if you have
 
 1. attained a high level of spiritual and emotional contentment and therefore should be applauded
 
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 2. created a complicated justification that legitimizes your being alone due to a lack of social skills.
 
 
 I congratulate you if it is the former but I feaqr it is the latter
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		|  September 9, 2003, 16:58 | #138 |  
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			Paying on dates ?
 many times we would just alternate paying for our dates. That way, the person making more can choose a more expensive  date occasionally without putting their date  in a financial bind.
 
 If " who pays ?" is a big deal. then you are probably not with the right person
 
 
 If you don't have a lot of money, sometimes something as simple as a walk in the park/on the beach can work.  If you NEED to spend major dough on your date, they probably aren't right for you.
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		|  September 9, 2003, 17:01 | #139 |  
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			I must confess I haven't been on a date in four weeks since I broke up with my girlfriend in Sacramento.  Right now I went on vacation to visit my family in San Diego but maybe I'll be good enough to talk some girl into a date when I get back home.
		  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 17:20 | #140 |  
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	| Originally posted by Spiffor 
 Nah. Non-whores are far superior, as you can have sex with them at your or their home. Much more comfortable
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Actually , escorts and streetwalkers will often entertain at their place or yours so there is no difference there.
 
I can think of hundreds of reasons why I would prefer to have a girlfriend/relationship over a paid escort but the geography of the sex is not one of them    |  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 17:30 | #141 |  
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			Whatever happen to the good ole dine and ditch?
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		|  September 9, 2003, 17:36 | #142 |  
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	| Look, this isn't the 50's and 60's when women were submissive |  
	
 
Feephi:
 
Women are not a monolith, there can be a whole range of attitudes.  I doubt every woman was submissive in the 50's just as I doubt every woman is a liberated feminist today. 
 
The key is to find what you like.     Me, I prefer a woman who lets me treat her to things, and who is more on the submissive side.
		  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 17:37 | #143 |  
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			That's the complete opposite to what I like obiwan...  oh, wait, Ben   |  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 17:41 | #144 |  
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			Good!  Less competition.    
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		|  September 9, 2003, 17:47 | #145 |  
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	| 1. attained a high level of spiritual and emotional contentment and therefore should be applauded 
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 2. created a complicated justification that legitimizes your being alone due to a lack of social skills
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English Majors   
I'd take the other ones for a spin around the block anyway... 
 
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		|  September 9, 2003, 18:48 | #146 |  
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			I've noticed Ming laughing a lot, but doesn't his missus earn a lot more money than he does? I bet she wears the strap-on in that relationship, buying all the meals and nights out    
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		|  September 9, 2003, 18:54 | #147 |  
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	| Originally posted by Japher 
 
 English Majors
  
 I'd take the other ones for a spin around the block anyway...
 
 Actually, you'll get no competition from me...  Wifey wouldn't allow it
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problem with my post Japher ???
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		|  September 9, 2003, 18:55 | #148 |  
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			there are more words over 5 letters in it than anyone elses posts...   |  
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		|  September 9, 2003, 19:10 | #149 |  
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			Eh? 
I have nothing against English majors with precise definitions and positive affirmations.    
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		|  September 9, 2003, 19:13 | #150 |  
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			Eek!
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