September 12, 2003, 18:09
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En realidad era Hungaro pero se mudo a la Argentina cuando surgio el gobierno fascista alla.
En cualquier caso, mejor que amidala diga que era argentino, asi nadie le discute. 
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yo dije argentino mas o menos 
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September 12, 2003, 18:13
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Che, no te enojes. Simplemente queria agregar precision a un relato sobre Biro que era apasionante.
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September 12, 2003, 18:17
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¡Mujeres suceptibles... ! 
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September 12, 2003, 18:21
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September 12, 2003, 18:22
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Si, es cierto, se debe a unas hormonas que... bueno como no les gustó mi apasionante explicación sobre los gusanitos ahora no les digo nada (nada que ya no sepan por experiencia )
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September 12, 2003, 18:49
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Benditos esteroles!
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September 12, 2003, 18:53
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A ver, decime la enzima del paso clave de la síntesis del colesterol! (es fácil  )
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September 12, 2003, 18:56
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Hmm... voy a arriesgar 'colesterasa'... :hmm:
Que me gane?
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September 12, 2003, 19:01
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Un palo en la cabeza! Es la HMG-CoA Reductasa!
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September 12, 2003, 19:02
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Aunque, es posible que colesterasa exista pero tenga que ver con algun proceso de degradacion... Hmm... carajo, ahora me confundo solo. Encima tengo parcial en un mes... Grrr...
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September 12, 2003, 19:03
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Chanfle! La tenia en la punta de la lengua pero no me salia!
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September 12, 2003, 19:03
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de que mierda están espamea... hablando. 
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September 12, 2003, 19:05
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Che, el proceso ese clave de la HMG-CoA Reductasa es en el Ap Golgi no o me estoy confundiendo?
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September 12, 2003, 19:06
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El del colesterol que tiene que ver con la HMGCOAREDUCTASA digo. 
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September 12, 2003, 19:06
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Cosas importantes!
La que degrada colesterol es la "Colesterol Hidroxilasa" si no me falla la memoria...
Si tenés alguna pregunta, preguntá nomás que yo no pienso contestar (mentira , si se te contesto)
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September 12, 2003, 19:07
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Che, el proceso ese clave de la HMG-CoA Reductasa es en el Ap Golgi no o me estoy confundiendo?
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preguntale a Golgi que debe saber como funciona su aparato.
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September 12, 2003, 19:07
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Eso te pasa por ser publicista Chilean.
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September 12, 2003, 19:09
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Un segundo
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September 12, 2003, 19:10
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Eso te pasa por ser publicista Chilean.
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bah cuando el mercado no sea lo suficientemente grande para los dos me van a llamar para que haga sus campañas.
"Martín... un doctor a tu cama"
"Con Carlos seguro que no pillas gusanos"
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September 12, 2003, 19:12
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September 12, 2003, 19:20
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Síntesis: creo que era en la mitocondria (microsoma?)
La síntesis comienza en un pasaje desde Acetil CoA a Mevalonato, en la última parte de esta primer etapa interviene la HMG-CoA Reductasa.
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September 12, 2003, 19:22
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"Martín... un doctor a tu cama"
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Pensandolo bien, podria ser un buen slogan si fuera a ser ginecologo de quinceañeras... que lastima que pienso hacer cirugia.
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September 12, 2003, 19:24
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I agree 
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September 12, 2003, 19:29
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Perdón, la síntesis es en el REL!
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September 12, 2003, 19:32
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Eso es lo que llamo "Efecto Cooperativo"
Ves! Yo sabia eso! Luego se va al Golgi por vesiculas y de ahi a la membrana plasmatica!
No tengo idea si el colesterol se va de vacaciones fuera de la celula, though.
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September 12, 2003, 19:38
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Es transportado por las HDL hacia el hígado, "colesterol bueno" y por las LDL hacia los tejidos, "colesterol malo"; se le dice así por que al estar en altas concentraciones tiende a depositarse en las paredes arteriales causando trastornos severos, sobre todo si es en las coronarias  .
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Eso es lo que llamo "Efecto Cooperativo"
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September 12, 2003, 20:06
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El LDL es colesterol malo entonces? Interesante... eso tambien lo vimos hoy (bah, vimos endocitosis, y el ejemplo era del LDL)
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September 12, 2003, 20:21
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Si, pero no te confundas , el colesterol no es malo en si, es muy necesario en diferentes partes del organismo, como ya mencionaste la membrana plasmática de la célula, también es precursor de hormonas esteroideas y de los ácidos biliares.
Lo malo es cuando supera el valor normal en sangre, 150 - 200 Mg/dl, en ese caso se acumula en cualquier parte.
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September 12, 2003, 20:24
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que mal Martín, eso hasta yo lo sabía
Viva el colesterol!!!
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September 12, 2003, 20:26
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Ninguna sustancia es mala en si. Si se sintetiza en el cuerpo, para algo sirve. La acumulacion = arteroesclerosis y los famosos taponamientos que se arreglan con una angioplastia, o bien con by pass, correcto?
A muy grosso modo claro.
Che, el colesterol bueno por que es 'bueno'? (ya se, no es que sea moral o inmoral, igual que el 'malo', pero porque 'bueno'? O es 'bueno' simplemente porque no es 'malo'?) HDL = es de Alta Densidad? En que influye la densidad?
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