Swedish foreign minister stabbed by knife - Page 7

Buck Birdseed · September 13, 2003, 20:37

The police profiler dude thinks the man was mentally disturbed (duh!) and was doing his daily shoplifting round at NK when he ran into Lindh.

Winston · September 13, 2003, 21:16

Or he might just have been a disgruntled militant leftist who opposed the single currency.

Chemical Ollie · September 13, 2003, 21:24

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Originally posted by Winston
Or he might just have been a disgruntled militant leftist who opposed the single currency.

Who just happened to shoplift a knife in the tool shop across the street and had the military knowledge to rotate the knife inside the belly to make maximal harm, then make sure that the knife had no traces of him when he dropped it. I'm really confused. I hope they find his DNA on the clothing at least.

Winston · September 13, 2003, 21:31

At this point, the information from the police and media on the circumstances surrounding all this are a bit sketchy for lack of a better word. You hear one thing today, another thing tomorrow.

What can't be argued much however is who had the bigger motive to kill her...

Chemical Ollie · September 13, 2003, 21:36

Who had a big motive to kill her? I can't see anybody, not even the ultra anti-€ crowd.

Winston · September 13, 2003, 21:40

You'd be surprised at the hatred flowing from that camp. Police had to draw their weapons and fire 103 shots to defend themselves after a referendum we had in 1993.

Chemical Ollie · September 13, 2003, 21:42

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Originally posted by Winston
Or he might just have been a disgruntled militant leftist who opposed the single currency.

A detail that speaks against that is the rotation of the knife. Only someone interested in military stuff would know such a thing, and leftists couldn't care less.

Chemical Ollie · September 13, 2003, 21:45

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Originally posted by Winston
You'd be surprised at the hatred flowing from that camp. Police had to draw their weapons and fire 103 shots to defend themselves after a referendum we had in 1993.

You don't have politicians like Anna Lindh. But after the 2001 riots. I know what you mean.

Winston · September 13, 2003, 21:53

I'm not sure how to reply to your remark that we don't have politicians like Anna Lindh.

So I guess I won't.

Spiffor · September 13, 2003, 22:13

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Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
A detail that speaks against that is the rotation of the knife. Only someone interested in military stuff would know such a thing, and leftists couldn't care less.

We have ouur *******s too. In the militant / anarchistic fringe, many clueless people find a moral justification to exert their passion for violence

Combat Ingrid · September 14, 2003, 00:19

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Originally posted by Chemical Ollie

A detail that speaks against that is the rotation of the knife. Only someone interested in military stuff would know such a thing, and leftists couldn't care less.

Someone generally interested in killing people would probably be quite aware of this too, regardless of political or military interests. You know, there are plenty of "informative" books on how to kill/torture people available.

The Mad Monk · September 14, 2003, 00:34

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Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
Here's our guy. The police has reversed from the street-junkie theory, he might be anybody.

His long hair is not what you would expect for a neo-nazi skinhead, but he could be an ex-skin who have grown his hair now that he has grown older. The hooded jacket is popular among anarchists and ultra-commies, but the Nike logo printed on it speaks against that. On the other hand, those punks are often contradictionary in the sense that they talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

A disturbing detail is that a knife of the type that was used in the assault was stolen from the Claes Olsson store right across the street the same afternoon. There just seem to be some co-incidences to support the conspiration theory.

What's with the pixelation in the photo?

Combat Ingrid · September 14, 2003, 00:46

They don't want to show a clear picture of his face until they have found all the main witnesses.

Ambro2000 · September 14, 2003, 05:30

The police didn't even want to show the pic at all. But media got hold of it somehow.

Monk · September 14, 2003, 08:31

Winston,

Why would any euro opposer be stupid enough to pull this stunt? The death of Anna Lindh became the tie-breaker reason the Swedes are going to approve the euro tonight. It's cynicism at its best, but if the euro opposers wanted to achieve something through violent means they should have killed off that Maud thing.

On a related note, what the hell is the Swedish media thinking putting a nine-minute long pro-Euro monologue by A.L on the air at this point and when both campaigns have been suspended? If what I read is correct it's a dirty trick for sure.

Solly · September 14, 2003, 08:35

Why can't the referendum be delayed..?

Monk · September 14, 2003, 08:45

It can't be delayed because it would be a clear signal to every violent bastard around that violence can be used to stop the democratic process.

Bereta_Eder · September 14, 2003, 09:16

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Originally posted by Monk
On a related note, what the hell is the Swedish media thinking putting a nine-minute long pro-Euro monologue by A.L on the air at this point and when both campaigns have been suspended? If what I read is correct it's a dirty trick for sure.

It would indeed be a development if your foreign minister's death would put that little extra weight towards the euro...

Exploitative and cynical, yes no doubt. But maybe in the minds of thepeople who are doing it, they don't want her death to go to "waste" but contribute to the future of Sweden and to do her wishes even after her death.

To their minds at least.

Winston · September 14, 2003, 10:01

Monk,

I didn't say the killer was acting rationally in any way.

I just pointed to a type of killer who in my view would have had the bigger motive.

And the killing will shift some votes of course, but in the end it will still be a no I fear, so relax already.

Chemical Ollie · September 14, 2003, 10:40

Yes, this campaign has been full of dirty tricks. One was Maud Olofssons decision to go and vote YESTERDAY at the post office and say something like "One good thing with Anna Lindh was her ability to accept the will of her opponents", meaning "don't change your vote to "yes" in tribute to Anna, go and vote "no", just like you planned". That little trick would not had the same effect if she pulled it today, when most people already voted themselves.

Another dirty trick was the suggestion by Liberal party leader Lars Lejionborg to put Anna Lindh on the Swedish Euro coins if there is a "Yes" majority.

Chemical Ollie · September 14, 2003, 11:28

Here's our hero again. They just released his face. Bubba will have his ass.

Hurricane · September 14, 2003, 11:56

Nike - Just do it!

Monk · September 14, 2003, 12:18

Of course the politicians would trade their grandmothers for votes. It's just that I think Swedish national television is supposed to be impartial.

Winston, of course you fear the result. So do I