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View Poll Results: Where do you stand politically?
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Conservative
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17.35% |
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Liberal
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13.27% |
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Social
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12.24% |
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Libertarian
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12.24% |
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Communist
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11.22% |
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Fundamentalist
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1.02% |
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Facsist
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4.08% |
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Neo-Nazi
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2.04% |
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Anarchist
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7.14% |
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Other
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8.16% |
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September 12, 2003, 10:01
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Originally posted by Maniac
I am social. 
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What is social?  Although I'm guessing something between Liberal and Conservative - Centrist like?
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September 12, 2003, 10:20
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Well I haven't got a clue what Mr. Nice Guy means with social, but I'm rather left-wing economically and centrist ethically.
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September 12, 2003, 10:35
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What a refreshing new thread. 
I consider myself a communist. Socially, I think people should do whatever they want to, as long as they don't harm anyone else. I frown upon religions. I frown upon people who do things that try to destroy all those values.
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September 12, 2003, 10:38
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Progressive Liberal for life.
I've always felt the best days of our country were with forward-thinking liberals in positions of leadership.
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September 12, 2003, 10:44
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Deity
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Azazel spends most of his days frowning. 
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September 12, 2003, 10:55
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See sig for answer.
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Oscar Wilde 
Very true, just as much now, as it was 100 years ago.
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September 12, 2003, 10:57
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Azazel spends most of his days frowning.
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September 12, 2003, 11:19
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King
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Vote libertarian and save the world!
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September 12, 2003, 11:57
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Don't even ask. Oh wait, you just did.
I'm a post-socialist feminist civic-republican new pluralist radical democrat.
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September 12, 2003, 12:02
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Originally posted by BeBro
Well, originally it was used for (mainly) latin-ameria countries lead by military juntas who were set up by foreign powers.
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Don't beat around the bush. Foreign power - i.e. the US.
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September 12, 2003, 12:03
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I'm a Conservative
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September 12, 2003, 13:52
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King
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right-wing liberal (in the british sense).
snapcase, you could of just shorterned that lot to 'wrong' btw 
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September 12, 2003, 15:05
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King
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hard to say... liberals in in Belgium are more rightwing I think than liberals in America for example
i'm a bit of a communist, but not in the authoritarian maoist/stalinist way of course 
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September 12, 2003, 15:12
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Originally posted by Berzerker
That's called libertarian, Sava.
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nah... fiscally conservative just means you don't believe in spending beyond your means... libertarian = no social welfare... i.e. social darwinism
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September 12, 2003, 15:37
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King
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Liberal / Social / Moderate
Or, as NationStates tends to call me: Democratic Socialist
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September 12, 2003, 15:54
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Deity
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New Democrat/Social Democrat (of the "right wing" SDUSA variety) - too concerned about distributive justice for the former, too much of a free trader for the latter. (Blairite might work - but Im not sure it applies this side of the pond - unfortunately here the best and brightest 3rd way types are very reticent about social justice, and folks more willing to address it are usually protectionist)
Foreign Policy - neo-Wilsonian with neo-conservative leanings. (or maybe a neo-conservative with neo-Wilsonian leanings?)(again more Blair then anything I can pin down on this side of the pond - see the more liberal posters at Oxblog for examples - see also the editorial page of the Washington Post)
Culture - moderate - a modernist and pro-feminist, but with communitarian/traditionalist sympathies
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September 12, 2003, 16:59
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Prince
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8% fascist or NeoNazi? This isn't exactly scientific.
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September 12, 2003, 19:46
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King
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Communist with Anarchist leanings.
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September 12, 2003, 19:57
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I find it amazing that "liberal" is the vocabulary describing the main enemy in the eyes of both European leftists and American conservatives.
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September 12, 2003, 20:00
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I wrote above that I'm a moderate conservative in the European sense of the words. This is just a reflection on how people view things:
Libertian = neo-liberal in the vocabulary of European leftists.
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September 12, 2003, 20:23
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Prince
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Moderate, mid-way between the lefties and the righties, sometimes closer to one of them in certain subjects, but just as likely to oppose them on others.
Thus they both hate me.
I'm generally tolerant of those on both sides of the fence despite the fact that they tend to hate my opinions and therefore I usually get into long arguments with them, when I have the time and will.
Interestingly, my egoistical, arrogant, agressive, anarchist, atheist, spoiled, devil-may-care, highschool dropout of a brother usually gets along with me better than either of my old folks do...despite the fact that I intellectually loathe his anarchism-egoism-indifference more than any other political position I've seen yet on Apolyton.
Weird.
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September 12, 2003, 20:30
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i'm a bit of a communist, but not in the authoritarian maoist/stalinist way of course
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Obvious statement of the day.
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September 12, 2003, 23:51
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King
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Communist.
And Sloww, you are NOT a moderate
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And you are not a communist. You would not know one if you met a real one. 
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September 13, 2003, 10:48
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Settler
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I'm a post-socialist feminist civic-republican new pluralist radical democrat.
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 Dont you people ever get sick of meaningless jargon?
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September 13, 2003, 10:52
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as a Utilitarian Egalitarian Anti-Post-Modernist Technocrat, I resent your post, Verres.
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September 13, 2003, 10:55
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Settler
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Indeed. I am sure you do.
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September 13, 2003, 11:07
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Settler
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Besides, Azazel, how can you be advocating equal rights for all if the world is ruled by technical experts?? See, once you actually look at what all that jargon (my word of the minute) means, it makes no sense...but hey, what do i know
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September 13, 2003, 11:08
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I could explain it to you if you like. If I thought people would get what I meant I'd have used just "radical democrat" but I'm sure they'd all think I was just a generally left-wing american, which is not what I mean.
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September 13, 2003, 11:10
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So could I. Egalitarian is to strive for equality, and Technocrat is to be ruled by scientists and technological experts. I don't really see how those can't co-exist.
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September 13, 2003, 11:12
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Settler
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So could I. Egalitarian is to strive for equality, and Technocrat is to be ruled by scientists and technological experts.
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Ummm...isnt that what I just said????
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