Estonia joins the EU - Page 2

VetLegion · September 14, 2003, 20:00

No, it's soldouts. I got it from 1769 edition of Oxford dictionary, however it is rare, in fact I own the only copy..

Whatever it is they gave up the fight. Can't scratch their eggs now without approval from Belgium, not to mention their bananas. I prefer keeping my sovereignity in this regard.

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Originally posted by paiktis22

I'm sure that you Winston, as a rather failed cryptoNazi in the respect that you are unable to hide it, after having spent most of your life «protecting minorities» for the sole reason of engrossingly satisfying your twisted caucasian psychosis in order to hide other of your shortcomings, you will have no problem finding truths to little teddy's literrary masterpieces.

flipside · September 14, 2003, 20:03

Oh Christ the "new" "cold war" is on religion and not race.

Shite, more coke then.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................

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but I'm afraid your knowledge about EU integration remains sketchy.

That was a great line

Spiffor · September 14, 2003, 20:03

Welcome Estonia !

The Vagabond · September 14, 2003, 20:28

The more countries join the EU, the tighter a new Berlin Wall shrinks around Russia. Hell, now we need visas to visit even the closest neighbours! F*ck this goddamn EU

Spiffor · September 14, 2003, 20:29

The Vagabon:
When do you join then ?

The Vagabond · September 14, 2003, 20:39

Spiffor: unfortunately this matter is not on the agenda. We can't even break the visa circle yet. The EU can expand for all that we care. But conditions for the Russian people should not become worse as a result of the expansion. That is if we are friends, of course.

mrmitchell · September 14, 2003, 20:43

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Whatever it is they gave up the fight. Can't scratch their eggs now without approval from Belgium, not to mention their bananas. I prefer keeping my sovereignity in this regard.

I can scratch my banana without approval from Belgium

Ted Striker · September 14, 2003, 21:21

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Originally posted by Ecthelion
(hypothetical) DVR

DVD

VCR

TCO · September 14, 2003, 21:34

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Originally posted by The Vagabond
Spiffor: unfortunately this matter is not on the agenda. We can't even break the visa circle yet. The EU can expand for all that we care. But conditions for the Russian people should not become worse as a result of the expansion. That is if we are friends, of course.

Go sit in the gulag.

Oerdin · September 14, 2003, 21:58

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About the same time you let Cuba become a state in USA

They practically were from 1898 until the revolution of 1959. In fact Cuba came with in three votes of being annexed by the US at the end of the Spanish American war.

Spiffor · September 14, 2003, 22:03

Well, the Ottoman empire practically was a German protectorate at that time too

The Vagabond · September 14, 2003, 22:13

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Originally posted by TCO
Go sit in the gulag.

F*** you too.

Odin · September 14, 2003, 22:23

I'm torn, I like the EU in principle, but not when France and Germany steal money from other EU nations to subsidize thier worthless farmers.

DOWN WITH SUBSIDIES!!!

Odin · September 14, 2003, 22:25

Turkey shouldn't be allowed into the EU untill they stop thier human rights abuses on the Kurds.

Spiffor · September 14, 2003, 22:34

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Germany steal money from other EU nations to subsidize thier worthless farmers.

You mix different things, don't you ?

First, it's France, and soon Poland, who 'steal' money from other countries to subzidize their farmers. More precisely, an agreement that was reached decades ago, and that France staunchly defends is that agricultural subsidies are the affair of the EU. Basically, it means EU countries pool their funds for subsidies, and they give an appropriate part of the funds to the countries that 'need' them.
Since Germany is the richest country in the EU, it pays the most. And since it has very few peasants, and a much less important agriculture than France (EU's top farming country), it gets much less money. In the end, we Frenchmen 'steal' money to the Germans

Second, there is something completely different happening now: EU countries have agreed a few years ago to keep the same budgetary discipline, so that nobody tanks the Euro (and the growth of the whole Euro-zone) by doing anything they want with their public expenses. Currently, France and Germany are not honoring their part of the contract, meaning they do less sacrifices than other countries, they profit from others' sacrifices. And this is indeed theft.

Odin · September 14, 2003, 22:39

Thanks for correcting me, Spiff, my bad, I still say screw the French farmers (and the Poles too).

Oerdin · September 15, 2003, 04:14

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Originally posted by Spiffor
Well, the Ottoman empire practically was a German protectorate at that time too

Yes, but did the Ottoman's have their constitution written by the Germans and have anything remotely like the Platt amendment in it? You also have to remember that the US invaded Cuba and took it away from Spain then set them up as a virtual colony.

Drake Tungsten · September 15, 2003, 05:15

Turkey

BeBro · September 15, 2003, 05:36

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Originally posted by Spiffor

First, it's France, and soon Poland, who 'steal' money from other countries to subzidize their farmers. More precisely, an agreement that was reached decades ago, and that France staunchly defends is that agricultural subsidies are the affair of the EU. Basically, it means EU countries pool their funds for subsidies, and they give an appropriate part of the funds to the countries that 'need' them.
Since Germany is the richest country in the EU, it pays the most. And since it has very few peasants, and a much less important agriculture than France (EU's top farming country), it gets much less money. In the end, we Frenchmen 'steal' money to the Germans

[Fez mode]You criminal, you provide nothing, yet you want to steal money fromthe EU![/Fez mode]

The Mad Monk · September 15, 2003, 05:54

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Originally posted by The Vagabond
Spiffor: unfortunately this matter is not on the agenda. We can't even break the visa circle yet. The EU can expand for all that we care. But conditions for the Russian people should not become worse as a result of the expansion. That is if we are friends, of course.

I guess you'll just have to throw in with us, then.

Ecthy · September 15, 2003, 07:06

DVR = Deutsche Volksrepublik or German People's Republic, after the forced reunification of West and East Germany as well as Austria under socialist rule

TCO · September 15, 2003, 07:31

Try for the Sudetanland and Danzig as well?

Ecthy · September 15, 2003, 07:44

nah, they'd belong to our socialist brothers, the Polish and Czechoslovakian comrades

Chemical Ollie · September 15, 2003, 15:14

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Turkey

Turkey is not a democracy. It is not located in Europe (to the most part). It is infamous for human rights abuses. Why should EU take them in?

Heresson · September 15, 2003, 16:37

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The more countries join the EU, the tighter a new Berlin Wall shrinks around Russia.

So, your neighbours can't do what they want because You don't feel good about it?

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Hell, now we need visas to visit even the closest neighbours! F*ck this goddamn EU

It's Russia that makes problems at the borders. Russian visas on Polish-Russian borders are 6x higher than Polish ones...

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When do you join then ?

When their problems with imperial ambitions, violating human rights, corruption etc will get smaller.
That's the optimistic version.

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Spiffor: unfortunately this matter is not on the agenda. We can't even break the visa circle yet. The EU can expand for all that we care. But conditions for the Russian people should not become worse as a result of the expansion. That is if we are friends, of course.

Russians will be treated better than any other EU neighbours anyway.