Should I sue Reading? A moral dilema... - Page 2

MikeH · September 22, 2003, 08:13

I don't know anyone high up, I just know poorly paid flunkeys.

Rogan Josh · September 22, 2003, 08:13

Sue the bastards for all they're worth.

MikeH · September 22, 2003, 08:16

£2.56

Verres · September 22, 2003, 08:22

. Maybe it isnt worth it...

Jack_www · September 22, 2003, 08:32

If this was US, they would be sued faster then you can blink your eyes. People here in the US are not as slow or have second thoughts about filling a law suit. I guess it is different in Europe.

MikeH · September 22, 2003, 08:37

It is.

It's harder to win because people assume that people should use common sense, also in the UK at least the compensation is decided by the judge not a jury.

So if you have, say, 3 months off work your compensation is likely to be 3 months pay + maybe a small amount extra to cover costs etc.

Jack_www · September 22, 2003, 09:05

I would sue if I had medical bills as a result of this and if I had to miss work and it was a lot of money that it cost me, money that I did not had and I would try to sue in small claims court. I dont think a layer will take the case anyways, you would never get enough money.

MikeH · September 22, 2003, 09:09

Oh yeah, we have free healthcare as well don't forget.

duke o' york · September 22, 2003, 09:10

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£2.56

Was this the ebay valuation?
Anyway, I'll see your £2.56 and I'll raise you 30p!
I could use some flunkies after the grisly death of my last slave.

Atahualpa · September 22, 2003, 09:55

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and i dont blame my accident on the organisers

well that says it all I guess

Atahualpa · September 22, 2003, 09:58

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Originally posted by MikeH
Oh yeah, we have free healthcare as well don't forget.

Oh yeah it is financed by taxes dont forget

there is nothing like a free healthcare only that in europe everyone pays for you and you pay for everyone and in the US you pay for yourself and others give a rats ass.

ata

Whaleboy · September 22, 2003, 12:15

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Maybe it isnt worth it...

Perhaps, but still they shouldn't have let that many people there (at least, thats the line the lawyer will probably take).

You could get in contact with some bloodsucker organisation like Claims Direct or something... you know the kind that plague the commercial breaks of the History Channel

. They might be able to tell you.

However, while you might get some money, law suits brought by an individual against an organisation doesn't work wonders for your employability, lest you decide to sue your future bosses for injury or harrasment etc, which they might think is more likely if you have sued before. I dunno, just a thought... its been a long day! If you did decide to sue, you might have possible problems with the length of earnings issue because you're in school and didn't miss any lessons (IIRC?).

However, on a more general note, moral dillemmas need not apply to companies. They'd screw you for all theyre worth if they got the chance.. get in your pre-emptive strike (and who says that paranoia can't be profitable?).

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But i am Joe public! (or Josephine, anyway)

You've met my mother, now I'm scared!

Laters!

chequita guevara · September 22, 2003, 12:20

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Originally posted by Jack_www
If this was US, they would be sued faster then you can blink your eyes. People here in the US are not as slow or have second thoughts about filling a law suit. I guess it is different in Europe.

That's so not true. It's just that with 280 million of us to choose from, the media gets to have a field day with the wackiest examples. I, for example, have not sued two people who owe me thousands of dollars. I really have an aversion to going to court.

chequita guevara · September 22, 2003, 12:22

You won't get any money because you've posted here you're just doing it for the money and people here will tell on you.

Whaleboy · September 22, 2003, 12:27

che: You one of those guys that goes around firebombing those who trip you up in the street? If so, I owe you a beer!

chequita guevara · September 22, 2003, 12:29

I'm always willing to have a free beer.

Jack_www · September 22, 2003, 12:46

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara

That's so not true. It's just that with 280 million of us to choose from, the media gets to have a field day with the wackiest examples. I, for example, have not sued two people who owe me thousands of dollars. I really have an aversion to going to court.

Maybe in your state, but not in California my friend. I see the commercials on day time tv if I watch tv during the week day. But I doubt this would be a case any lawer would take since the amount of money your could get is small since he did not suffer a very serious injury.

I could see sueing if you had to take weeks off work and had huge medical bills, but even in US the bills would most likely be small if you had insurance. Anther case for a suit is if you got crippled at the fair or died and someone you knew sued for you, that way you would be sure to get millions of dollars.

chequita guevara · September 22, 2003, 13:04

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Originally posted by Jack_www
Maybe in your state, but not in California my friend.

There are 30 million people in California. Even if one tenth of one percent had frivolous lawsuits, that's still three thousand lawsuits, which seems like a lot in real numbers, but in percentages is actually just a tiny fraction.

Jack_www · September 22, 2003, 13:07

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara

There are 30 million people in California. Even if one tenth of one percent had frivolous lawsuits, that's still three thousand lawsuits, which seems like a lot in real numbers, but in percentages is actually just a tiny fraction.

There is a lot of problems here in California due to frivolous lawsuits. In fact all over the US the health industry is facing rising costs due to people sueing doctors and winning when something goes bad and the patient gets hurt or dies.

Mal pratice insurance rates are going up. Not too long ago a law frim here in California was using a loop hole in the law to try to get money out of small bussiness for minor violations of the law wich they already fixed, and they just got kicked off the California State bar.

chequita guevara · September 22, 2003, 13:09

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In fact all over the US the health industry is facing rising costs due to people sueing doctors and winning when something goes bad and the patient gets hurt or dies.

This is a good thing. Doctors should be held responsible for medical malpractice.

Jack_www · September 22, 2003, 13:10

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara

This is a good thing. Doctors should be held responsible for medical malpractice.

Not all of it is the doctors fault. Sometimes things go bad and there is nothing a doctor can do, and they get sued anyways.

Drogue · September 28, 2003, 17:58

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After all, who could possibly have predicted that in a moshpit you might get hurt?

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So this was a community festival type of event? Let's say you do sue, you get an award, the event's insurer pays out. You're all happy, you just cashed in, good for you. Now a precedent's been set, now somebody else who might've gotten hurt comes forward. Same as you, s/he wasn't permanently hurt, just a few days' pain. Another award. So on and so forth. The insurance company sees what's happening and realizes they'll have to cover themselves next time.

Fast-forward a year. Community wants to put on the festival again. They get their quote from the insurer for the liability insurance, and the premium's skyrocketed! Now the community can't afford to put on the event. The event's cancelled. Everyone's bummed. But, hey, you cashed in!

It'd be one thing if you'd been permanently injured or suffered some financial hardship, as you could build a solid economic claim out of either of those circumstances. But it sounds like neither is the case. Take some responsibility for your own life and don't ask the rest of society to pay you to make you feel better.

Actually, with the amount Mean Fiddler get from Reading, and the amount of accidents and lawsuits usually, their premiums are already sky high. However when they make millions each year from the festival, it's not that high.

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Originally posted by Starchild
You were at Reading Festival? So was I! Wow! Now only 15,999 other people to find.

There were actually a few 'Polytoners there it seems

We should have met up.

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Which mosh pit where you in? If it was Good Charlotte, you're a weak girly man.

If it was some of the tougher bands, you're lucky to get out alive.

The Music - last band, last night, Radio 1 tent. And the circle pit in Good Charlotte is not for the weak!

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If it was the Smirnoff Dance tent, I exile you to the coldest reaches of the arctic north.

The dance tent isn't that bad! It has its uses...

Personally, I don't think it's worth the hassle, although it depends if they'd settle. Morally I don't know. There really should be more stewards and crowd control that actually know what they're doing, but I doubt it would have stopped the accident. I just wish I had taken better care of you

chequita guevara · September 28, 2003, 18:51

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Not all of it is the doctors fault. Sometimes things go bad and there is nothing a doctor can do, and they get sued anyways.

My friend's father had the wrong foot amputated. He still needed to ahve the correct foot amputated. So now, because the doctor screwed up, he has no feet. Yet people whining about malpractice insurancecosts would like to limit his pain and suffering to a quarter million dollars!

A quarter million only for having NO FEET!?!

When California put a cap on damages, premiums continued to rise for another decade. It wasn't until California put a cap on premiums that malpractice insurance became affordable to doctors again. But Republicans with no brains (oh, wait, that's redudent!) would rather punish the patients.

Immortal Wombat · September 28, 2003, 19:30

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I just wish I had taken better care of you

Yeah! Sue Drogue!

Drogue · September 28, 2003, 19:33

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Yeah! Sue Drogue!

Imran Siddiqui · September 29, 2003, 00:26

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This is a good thing. Doctors should be held responsible for medical malpractice.

Preach on brother che!

But I also agree that Rule 11 sanctions (for frivolous lawsuits) should be more commonly levyed.

MikeH · September 29, 2003, 04:50

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The Music - last band, last night, Radio 1 tent. And the circle pit in Good Charlotte is not for the weak!

THE MUSIC?!

Starchild · September 29, 2003, 08:26

I was standing toward the back during the Music so my friends and I could make an escape to Metallica

MikeH · September 29, 2003, 08:33

I just can't imagine them having a huge moshpit. More of an indy-kid shuffle pit.

I was watching System of a Down who were awesome.

Cruddy · September 29, 2003, 08:38

Verres, hedge your bets. Fill in the form and return it (it's more on a census deal than actual intent to litigate).

Personally I'd only go law suit if I was seriously injured - Perjury has an unlimited prison sentence. And even if you don't do time, your cred is ruined for life.

3 weeks and you're OK? You're almost certainly OK. If you get paralysed in the next couple of months then have a lawyer see to it, but I reckon you'll have to find other ways to make your moolah.

Now, CRIMINAL compensation is much easier in the UK. Go for permanent brain damage and you get a whopping £20K.

Ever considered prostitution?