"Bolivar's Dream" has been finally released!

jasev · September 22, 2003, 17:50

I posted this thread in the Spanish Site Forum first, but it seems that our beloved forum has been invaded by Civ3 fans

Any Civ2 fans know that Jesús Balsinde (aka Jay Bee, our beloved Spanish Forum mod) created a scenario that would be a Latin American version of his "Spanish Pride, Iberian Pride": Seven Latin American civilizations starting just like in a normal Civ2 game but in a Latin American map, from Southern USA states to Patagonia.

The scenario was finished loooong time ago (~2000), but Jay Bee became lazy and never released it. We even did a PBEM playtest (still at play) to test its multiplayer capabilities.

Any months ago, Jay Bee asked me to finish the scenario and release it. I couldn't at that time, but I never forgot about it and now it's time to release it!

I've changed as less as possible, not only because I am a lazy b*stard (as El Awrence once said) but because I don't want to spoil the scenario. Just added any sounds, changed any leaders (updated in fact, they are the current leaders), wrote the Civilopedia text for the Wonders of the World and the readme.txt

The Scenario is Available at The Spanish Civilization Site, of course.

Thank you Jesús for allowing me to spoil your scenario

THE PLAYERS:

-Argentinians (Néstor Kirchner)
-Colombians (Álvaro Uribe)
-Peruvians (Alejandro Toledo)
-Mexicans (Vicente Fox)
-Brazilians ("Lula" da Silva)
-Cubans (Fidel Castro)
-Americans aka Gringos (Jorge Caminante Arbusto)

EDIT: Typo with "Colombians"

curtsibling · September 22, 2003, 17:59

Superb!

Downloading right now!

jasev · September 22, 2003, 18:06

Don't expect graphic marvels, curtsibling. Consider that it is an old scenario. But of course, we're always open to suggestions...

Palaiologos · September 22, 2003, 18:08

Who is "Jorge Caminante Arbusto" commanding the Yankees?

George something?

jasev · September 22, 2003, 18:13

You're right, "Jorge" is the spanish form for "George".
"Caminante" means "Walker" in spanish.
I hope you'll be able to guess what "Arbusto" means (otherwise, try with babylon.com

)

Mercator · September 22, 2003, 18:15

Edit: damn! too late.

Palaiologos · September 22, 2003, 18:15

Aha!

yaroslav · September 22, 2003, 18:19

The scen is worth enough a play, guys. I believe that the easiest civs to start with are probably Argentina and Mexico, and Cuba is the most difficult one

jasev · September 22, 2003, 18:24

Mexico has a good starting position but... "Poor Mexico, so far from god and so near from the United States" (Porfirio Díaz, president of Mexico)

The gringos are the bad guys in this scenario. They don't negotiate (when computer controlled), just crush all opposition. And Mexico is in their way...

mmm... maybe I should make Gringos stronger... another city at the beginning or so

curtsibling · September 22, 2003, 19:13

I am playing as the Americans...Good fun!

I used my diplo to grab two barb imperialist rifle dudes, and my conquest has begun!

Next is Tijuana!

JCG · September 22, 2003, 20:13

Little Aesthetic Nitpick: "Columbia/ns" should be "Colombia/ns". That's the official name even in English (check your atlas/dictionary/almanac), despite the repeated attempts by a random number of ill informed people to make it otherwise (kinda like "old habits die hard", I guess).

Dr. Nick · September 22, 2003, 22:00

Indeed. Colombia is Colombia. Not Columbia.

jasev · September 23, 2003, 03:56

OK, I'll correct it soon.

rmsharpe · September 23, 2003, 12:21

On the download page, the image link links to celtiber.zip, not bolivar.zip. I mistakenly downloaded the wrong scenario :\

jasev · September 23, 2003, 12:44

Thank you rmsharpe, I'll correct it ASAP

EDIT: Corrected.

ottok · September 24, 2003, 05:52

Thank you rmsharpe, I'll correct it ASAP

EDIT: Corrected.
?????????

Palaiologos · September 24, 2003, 07:12

Quote:

Originally posted by ottok
Thank you rmsharpe, I'll correct it ASAP

EDIT: Corrected.
?????????

????????????????????

fairline · September 24, 2003, 07:47

Ottok, do you really think you are funny? Just wondered.

rmsharpe · September 24, 2003, 09:51

I think what he means is he was asking what was corrected.

Palaiologos · September 24, 2003, 10:08

What i never understood is how this ottok can well read english posts but he seemingly can't write in english.

Stefan Härtel · September 24, 2003, 10:43

Seriously, it was a joy to see him back, but somehow this has become annoying.

jasev · September 24, 2003, 11:53

Quote:

I think what he means is he was asking what was corrected.

Does it really require an explanation?

When rmsharpe wrote about the wrong link at the download page, I answered writing I would correct it as soon as possible. Six minutes later, as I had been able to correct it, I edited my post to inform about it ("EDIT: Corrected")

rmsharpe · September 24, 2003, 13:20

You can always count on the ignorance of some people.

Shaka Naldur · September 24, 2003, 13:45

finally released?
I've always wondered why he never wanted to release it

jasev · September 24, 2003, 13:48

Quote:

I've always wondered why he never wanted to release it

Because he has become lazyer than myself

Heresson · September 24, 2003, 16:55

Downloading...

ottok · September 25, 2003, 06:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Palaiologos
What i never understood is how this ottok can well read english posts but he seemingly can't write in english.

REASON ONE: I STUDID my english when i read a CIVILIZATION I manual...

REASON TWO: SUOMIPOIKA

curtsibling · September 25, 2003, 07:18

I love Poly's intenational flavour!

Heresson · September 25, 2003, 10:25

I always see the map before I start. Not because I want to cheat by seeing where should I go, but because I like maps. I like making them, I like seeing them, I like'em. I use cheat mode usually. And now I can't. I'll have to either change settings or load it by map editor. Bueh. Waste of time. If someone wishes to open cheat mode, He will.
I do not use cheat mode while playing scenarios, except for my own.

Palaiologos · September 25, 2003, 10:56

Why can't you use the cheat mode?