manual events

Art of War · September 25, 2003, 12:53

what do I need to write my events and then have them work in game without giving me the "there is a problem with the events.txt, read the manual to learn how to debug them"?

jasev · September 25, 2003, 13:31

The only way to debug manual-created events is to isolate the failure.

Take the first five events (for example) and create a new events.txt with only those events. Load the scenario. If you find problems, then review those events (once you have located an erroneous event, you can post it in this forum and we'll help you to correct it) until you find the mistake. If you don't find problems, add the next five events.

There are many forms of doing it, but the idea is simple: first isolate the problem, then solve it.

Somebody could do an auto debugger, it shouldn't be SO difficult

Art of War · September 25, 2003, 14:34

well, the only reason i'm writing my events is because i want to use the barb civ...is there a way to write all my events except the barb events in the game then write the barb events?

Stefan Härtel · September 25, 2003, 15:17

The following should do the trick:

@BEGINEVENTS
@DEBUG
@IF
NOSCHISM

Include "@DEBUG" before your first event. It won't automatically be debugged, but the game will point out the error for you and will explain it for you to fix it. Quite simple, actually.

klesh · September 25, 2003, 15:48

Debugging doesnt work with MGE

Stefan Härtel · September 25, 2003, 16:11

Oh.

DarthVeda · September 25, 2003, 16:27

God damn.

curtsibling · September 25, 2003, 16:28

The best method is to back up your events, make a fresh and empty events file (with only begin and end tabs)
then add your events in twos or threes, and run the scen.

You will soon find the culprit.

It's normally a missing command like 'ENDTEXT' or something.

jasev · September 25, 2003, 17:51

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well, the only reason i'm writing my events is because i want to use the barb civ...is there a way to write all my events except the barb events in the game then write the barb events?

Yes, of course. Use the advanced editor to create the normal events (I only use the editor for the events) and then take the "events.txt" that will be generated and add barb events manually. But it's a pity to lose a full "events.txt" for a programming mistake, you should try to debug the file the way Curtsibling (and myself) suggested.

ottok · September 26, 2003, 03:34

ugh.

curtsibling · September 26, 2003, 03:46

'ugh'

Not a big fan of events editing, then , Ottok?

Palaiologos · September 26, 2003, 07:02

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Originally posted by curtsibling
'ugh'

Not a big fan of events editing, then , Ottok?

I wager!

But dudes there is no reason to create barb events manually.Simply create events normally and then manually change the civ to "barbarians".

Sometimes just having "Trigger attacker" as civ works.

Mercator · September 26, 2003, 09:49

What Palaiologos said. Simply make them with the civ2 editors but use some other civ first, and then rename them to barbarians later...

Then again... Why the hell are you using the civ2 editors in the first place!!?!? Read the manual and the macro.txt, have a look at some of the events in other scenarios and make your own. It's not like it's actually difficult.

jasev · September 26, 2003, 11:41

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Then again... Why the hell are you using the civ2 editors in the first place!!?!? Read the manual and the macro.txt, have a look at some of the events in other scenarios and make your own. It's not like it's actually difficult.

I agree that Civ2 editor is quite unuseful, but doing the events in the editor is quite easier than just writing it, and (most important) the editor doesn't make programming mistakes. Even the best programmers will have any error the first time they compile a program, the same with events language.

Elok · September 26, 2003, 11:45

Well, while we're talking about "somebody should," how about a more versatile, fan-made events editor?

Exile · September 26, 2003, 13:57

In John Possidente's book and in my own experience, using both the editor and the manual method to create an events file won't work. It'll crash the game.

Now some assert that this isn't the case, but on my machine, and with my MGE, that IS the way it works. I can do it one way . . . or the other. But if I try to go back in and change something manually after I've created the file with the editor . . . it crashes.

Elok · September 26, 2003, 17:04

And it's not just an embedding problem?

Palaiologos · September 26, 2003, 17:39

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Originally posted by Exile
In John Possidente's book.... .

For heaven's sake!

Someone has actually written a book for civ2?

Exile · September 26, 2003, 18:27

Title;

Civilization II, The Complete Guide to Scenario Building

by John Possidente

ISBN # 1-56893-904-3

Library of Congress card catalog # 98-84117

And I suppose that it could be an embedding problem. All I know is the how not the why.

Palaiologos · September 26, 2003, 21:58

Wow!

Only in america.......

DarthVeda · September 26, 2003, 22:10

I own that book!

ottok · October 2, 2003, 04:49

hmm...

Ecthy · October 2, 2003, 05:04

what is this?

Art of War · October 2, 2003, 14:32

i heard you had to download something that would convert the events from the textpad to the events written in-game.

Ecthy · October 4, 2003, 06:10

yeah, I was talking about ottok