Second Front

Michael Daumen · September 25, 2003, 14:29

Is there a strategy page or FAQ for this scenario?

Stefan Härtel · September 25, 2003, 15:14

Njet. Well, not that I know of

fairline · October 1, 2003, 13:14

I know this has been asked (and answered) before, but can someone please give me a run-through of how 'Choice' works and where to get it; I now have a Win XP computer (batch files don't work, curses!) and I can't run Second Front or Red Front without manually copying the necessary files.

jasev · October 1, 2003, 14:40

CHOICE.COM?

http://www.microscope.co.za/download_gen/CHOICE.COM

Download it, put it in the scenario folder and the batch file will work fine

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but can someone please give me a run-through of how 'Choice' works

What do you want to know exactly?

ravagon · October 2, 2003, 05:16

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Originally posted by Michael Daumen
Is there a strategy page or FAQ for this scenario?

I'm sure there was a thread that mentioned hints, tips etc, from both Nemo and Xin, but I can't find it anywhere.
It may've been lost when the AoW forum disintegrated.

Ecthy · October 2, 2003, 05:26

I've never played Second Front. How is it?

Started it once, it looked way complicating

fairline · October 2, 2003, 07:12

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Originally posted by jasev
CHOICE.COM?

http://www.microscope.co.za/download_gen/CHOICE.COM

Download it, put it in the scenario folder and the batch file will work fine

What do you want to know exactly?

Thanks Jasev. For some reason I thought that things were a little more complicated than this. I thought that the batch file itself had to be edited as well. So, as I understand it, I just need to place choice in the second front folder and run the batch file as normal.

Apologies to Michael for threadjacking!

Ecthy · October 2, 2003, 07:15

For example all those paratroopers in Normandy... so hard to manage

our_man · October 2, 2003, 07:30

No strategy page or FAQ that I'm aware of, but I did manage to unearth an old thread where it was discussed.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=43367

Ecthy · October 2, 2003, 07:36

RedFront I found a lot better.

jasev · October 2, 2003, 07:37

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So, as I understand it, I just need to place choice in the second front folder and run the batch file as normal.

That's it.

Trouble is, CHOICE.COM was a DOS command file that Win XP didn't include.
The MS-DOS mechanism is simple: first, system looks for the file in the current folder. If it can't be found, then system looks in the DOS default folder (c:\Windows\System32\ in WinXP). If you put the CHOICE.COM in the scenario folder, it will work fine. And you could also put it in the System32 folder, thus you won't have to copy it to every scenario folder.

Ecthy · October 2, 2003, 07:39

So there's another con against WinXP for civ players.

Are there any windows-based tools like choice.com around?

Mercator · October 2, 2003, 08:15

Batch files are DOS-based... choice.com is basically a program that can let you make menus in DOS.

A Windows-based version of choice.com wouldn't make any sense.

If you want something Windows-based, you should be using Windows scripting (i.e. JavaScript or VBscript) not Batch files.

jasev · October 2, 2003, 08:33

I'm currently using Visual Basic to build the equivalent of Batch files in Windows. It's quite simple, actually.

Ecthy · October 2, 2003, 08:41

Yeah, the point was if there are windows programms for those scenarios!

jasev · October 2, 2003, 10:13

Well, the old DOS batch files work well if you include the CHOICE.COM, so there's no need to make windows programs for those scenarios. You only have to include the file in the scenario ZIP (in fact, I've already done it with any scenarios I uploaded to the spanish site). But if somebody needs (or wants) to create a windows program for a scenario, I can program a little VB application for him

I suppose it could be easily done with VBscript or Javascript as Mercator points, but I never learned to use them

Mercator · October 2, 2003, 10:24

If you can do Visual Basic, you can do VBscript at least... You can download the Microsoft documentation for JScript and VBScript here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

jasev · October 2, 2003, 10:46

Thanks mercator, I'll take a look. I never learned to use them... mainly because I never tried to

Ecthy · October 4, 2003, 06:10

Why should you do that... it should be pretty easy to construct such a tool without any help files, no?