Explain Datajack what's the big deal about processors

Datajack Franit · September 29, 2003, 20:31

Please. I need a computer and I don't understand the differences between AMD and Intel processors, what do they do, which one is better, which one makes popcorns with bee vomit and all that stuff. And explain your reasons of course.

This thread already makes me feel mentally challenged so be nice

like the happy stuffed animals you can see in all those nice taxidermist shops in England

That's all! Nerds all over the world unite and help Datajack!

Skanky Burns · September 29, 2003, 20:58

Intel = Coke
AMD = Pepsi

Verto · September 29, 2003, 21:24

Athlon is usually priced lower.

Wittlich · September 29, 2003, 21:27

Yep, that's a good sumation Skanky.

If you want the original go for Intel.

If you want a knock-off (and any extra baggage which might come with it), then save a few dollars and go with AMD.

Of course, this advice is coming from a Coca-Cola drinker. Pepsi is just nasty (makes a lousy mixer)...but that's a different poll.

Skanky Burns · September 29, 2003, 21:32

Of course, both my computers are AMD. Best performance to cost ratio IMO. Still, Intel are nice, but not for poor uni students.

Dis · September 29, 2003, 22:28

pepsi sucks ass.

But I won't say AMD sucks ass. They do pretty good performance wise. But I've heard Intel has some special features to improve speed. but if the programmers don't utilize these, then they really aren't gaining any speed.

But I've had no problems with Intel, I have no reason to change.

Dis · September 29, 2003, 22:29

another processor worth thinking about is commodore

Inverse Icarus · September 29, 2003, 22:43

intels are better right now (they usually benchmark higher), but they do cost a lot more.

if you're buying 1.5+ ghz, and doing standard stuff, you probably won't notice the difference in speed, so save yourself the money if you want to.

MrFun · September 29, 2003, 23:21

I think Pepsi has a much better, and smoother taste than Coke.

Ari Rahikkala · September 29, 2003, 23:49

How about, say, an eight-way Alpha EV8?

Datajack Franit · September 30, 2003, 06:13

Considering I actually own a Pentium 700 everything above 1000 is a big improvement

Adagio · September 30, 2003, 08:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Intel = Coke
AMD = Pepsi

You've said it

Intel all the way

Harry Seldon · September 30, 2003, 09:56

AMDs run hotter than Intels. too, unless AMD fixed this recently.

Urban Ranger · September 30, 2003, 10:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
How about, say, an eight-way Alpha EV8?

Where? Where?

/me froths at the mouth.

Wait a minute. Just one, or all 8?

Urban Ranger · September 30, 2003, 10:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Harry Seldon
AMDs run hotter than Intels. too, unless AMD fixed this recently.

What? No. AMD chips don't use more power than Intel chips.

Zopperoni · September 30, 2003, 10:15

My P4 2.40c GHz runs at 33ºC now; I've never seen an AMD run under 45ºC before.

Harry Seldon · September 30, 2003, 10:59

Quote:

What? No. AMD chips don't use more power than Intel chips.

Not more power, just a larger amount of heat coming from the chip. More sinks, more fans, more trouble in the long run.

Q Classic · September 30, 2003, 11:35

amds: they use less power, but give off more heat.

in any case, i've never had trouble with either.

buy what's best, price-performance wise.

Zopperoni · September 30, 2003, 11:45

Yea, take into account that you'll also need a new motherboard and a new set of RAM.
Look for the best value for your demands and wishes.

I bought an Intel processor together with an Intel motherboard, because I wanted top quality and top compatibility. The warranty isn't bad either: three years on the motherboard is very good compared to other manufacturers.

Skanky Burns · September 30, 2003, 12:04

Newer AMD chips don't run as hot as previous models (my AMD 1000 regularly went over 60 C - in winter) but my newer one doesn't go that high. 40 C currently.

Combat Ingrid · September 30, 2003, 12:08

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Originally posted by Zopperoni
three years on the motherboard is very good compared to other manufacturers.

The motherboard on my old computer broke down just after the 3-year anniversary and yes, I had three years warranty too.

Locutus · September 30, 2003, 12:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Zopperoni
I've never seen an AMD run under 45ºC before.

Mine's at 41ºC currently

But it's true, I've seen AMDs run at 70ºC or more...

Zopperoni · September 30, 2003, 12:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Newer AMD chips don't run as hot as previous models (my AMD 1000 regularly went over 60 C - in winter) but my newer one doesn't go that high. 40 C currently.

Really?

Did you use any special cooling solutions to get there, because friends of mine can't seem to get their systems to run at such a low temperature (45ºC as the lowest)?

Quote:

Originally posted by Combat Ingrid
The motherboard on my old computer broke down just after the 3-year anniversary and yes, I had three years warranty too.

Hm, that sucks. I upgrade every three years, so this was a good deal for me.

Locutus · September 30, 2003, 12:23

Crosspost

Can't speak for Skanky, but I don't use any kind of special cooling. Your friends must indeed be using either older models, or cheaper ones

Datajack Franit · September 30, 2003, 12:54

How do I check the processor temperature?

Locutus · September 30, 2003, 13:09

It's usually in the BIOS under 'Health Status' or 'Hardware Monitor' or something similar (and at least some mobo manufacturors have software tools that work under Windows as well).

Zopperoni · September 30, 2003, 13:37

I use AIDA 32.