Vote now on if we should move the capital to HongHu KongHu!

Jamski · September 30, 2003, 03:05

From the Chairman, quoting the GLORIOUS Constitution

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As stated by Article 20, Section 2 the location of the capital is prescribed by law. Which means we need an official vote from the People's Congress in order to move the capital.

As we were planning on re-locatating the capital to HongHu KongHu we need a vote. As the People's Congress is pretty sleepy at the moment, I'm taking executive action to make every active Hive member a Deputy to the People's Congress for the purpose of this vote only

Vote Early. Vote Often. Vote Well!

-Jam

Jamski · September 30, 2003, 03:09

I prefer keeping the Hive as capital in name, but moving the HQ to HongHu KongHu for administrative purposes, subject to review in 5 years.

-Jam

Kody · September 30, 2003, 03:15

We need to move the captial somewhere. As the hive will be rebuilt in another 5 turns or so.

HongHu-KongHu was choosen as it can be later made into a trawler park. In the short term it would be better to build the captial in Central Planning or Voltairograd as there is roughly 3 lab points gained from the efficiency increase (maybe 2 ECs per turn too). However, rebuilding it in HongHu-KongHu means that we won't have to worry about rebuilding it later.

Although maybe it would be better to build it in Voltairograd as I'm not sure how long it'll be before we're ready to build the trawler park.

We can start with an inland energy park on mount doom. HongHu-KongHu isn't that far away and we can change the headquarters to HongHu-KongHu when the sea energy park outstrips the land one.

Micha · September 30, 2003, 04:36

Move it!

I like the idea of HongHu KongHu being our glorious capital and the biggest/richest base on planet at once...

Since it will become the crawler park anyway, it would be a shame not the have the capitol there...

As for now, we should go with the most efficient solution. I have greatest trust in Kody´s abilities to find the best possible location.

If it was Voltairograd - Great! Then the Chairman´s home base will be capital, good stuff for PRAVDA.

If it was Central Planning - Great! Then it gets the meaning the name already suggests...

Kody · September 30, 2003, 06:06

I had a look at the two realistic options. Either Voltariograd or HongHu-KongHu. If Jamski hadn't made me think about this we would have probably ended up building it in HongHu-KongHu.

Voltairograd is in a better position from a production standpoint than HongHu, and we can delay the headquarter build by an extra turn due to the position of Voltairograd in the production list. (Eg Hive is abandoned, next city in list is Voltariograd and it builds the headquarters so no energy loss. With HongHu-Kong we need to build 1 turn earlier as all the cities before it would have energy loss.)

This is important as we're also in the process of rushing two network nodes and two recycling tanks around that time too. Being able to delay the rebuild of the headquarters by 1 turn assists with the management of our ECs. This nets us a small mineral/EC advantage of perhaps 5 minerals or so (guessing as I didn't figure out turn 2144 completely).

In turn 2143 I looked at the labs and ecomony difference with a headquarters in HongHu and a headquarters in Voltariograd. There is an extra 3 labs with the headquarters in Voltariograd, and an extra 1 EC.

These bonuses mean little if we're planning on building the sea energy park early. However the real question is when do we get flexibility and when will we be able to build enough trawlers to make it worthwhile. The answer is a sea energy park just isn't effective yet. We need to develop some more bases to build sea formers and also the trawlers. Once we get flexibility our top priority for sea unit building will be probes or transports for shipping probes.

Our land energy will be our major energy source until around 2160 after that our sea energy park should be greater than our land energy park. By that time, the gains we would have gotten from building the headquarters in Voltariograd and acummulation of that advantage would be enough to offset the cost of rebuilding the headquarters in HongHu-KongHu.

This also raises the question whether we want to rebuild "The Hive" yet. I think the answer would be yes, firstly because we will be unable to build facilities in "The Hive" until we have completed the rebuild. It will be safer having all our coastal bases with sensors underneath. Also the colony pods will allow us to make those science cities with specialists. Finally, the hive has a B-drone level 7 and this Bdrone will be shifted to "University Base" when we rebuild.

It is the combination of all these reasons that prompt us to rebuild "The Hive".

Any flaws in reasoning that people can see?

Voltaire · September 30, 2003, 10:59

Following Comrade Kody’s latest insights, I am inclined to move the headquarters to Voltairograd for the time being, and then later transferring it over to HongHu-KongHu. It’s really a matter of semantics from a RP and political perspective, since the ceremonial capital would remain the Hive, and the headquarters (wherever it may be located) would simple be the administrative center.

Snowflake · September 30, 2003, 11:08

I fully agree with the Chairman's desision.

The main factor we are looking at I gather is the no effecience loss in the capital. Therefore we should delay building hq in HongHu KongHu until the sea energy park is a more feasible option.

Jamski · September 30, 2003, 12:15

We're generally in agreement then? New HQ in Voltairograd ?

-Jam

Octavian X · September 30, 2003, 17:12

I believe so. It sounds like a good solution to me.

Voltaire · September 30, 2003, 17:42

Ah Hive decision making.

Chairman approves something-->Everyone agrees that the decision was a good one

Vander · September 30, 2003, 19:07

Besides, being that the People's Congress has what, just me??

I do approve, though.

Vev · September 30, 2003, 19:07

Hive democracy at its best.

Voltaire · September 30, 2003, 22:39

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Originally posted by Vander
Besides, being that the People's Congress has what, just me??

I do approve, though.

It has you and a bunch of inactive people, I appointed everyone in the Hive to a position since the number of open positions would make us look bad.

Jamski · October 1, 2003, 03:09

And to make sure, I said that everyone was appointed as as deputy, incase noone realised

-Jam