My apology to Eyes of Night

The Shrew · May 16, 2001, 17:54

Recently there was a scandal going around that Eyes of Night cheated in game. The fact is, there is no conclusive proof of the fact. My move was a brash response to an insult, and a grave mistake. I doctored a file to make it look like he had done the evil deed. The fact is, I myself did this deed. Tact had no part in fixing the file. He did not cheat to my knowledge, and I have no proof he did, or was going to. So Eyes, I apoligize for my bad move. Go ahead and send this to everyone you see. Better to be honest about it than be mistrusted forever.

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Ming · May 16, 2001, 19:49

Touch of class!

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Ming
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May 16, 2001, 20:07

You're forgiven.

Chris 62 · May 16, 2001, 23:26

It's always good to do the right thing, and keep in mind, it's just a game. What does cheating get you? A win? Not really. Better to have a good time and get yours brains beaten in, than brand yourself with a scarlet letter this way. At least you have the good sense to stand up and take responsibility for your actions, a comendable action. As Ming said, a touch of class. Keep it that way.

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Scouse Gits · May 17, 2001, 07:31

Well said The Shrew - it took a lot of heart to do this.

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My Wife Hates CIV · May 17, 2001, 10:00

So... he's still a pile of crap cheater. what has changed???

I guess I have no class.

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SuperSneak · May 17, 2001, 11:17

quote:

Originally posted by cpoulos on 05-16-2001 11:26 PM
What does cheating get you? A win? Not really. Better to have a good time and get yours brains beaten in, than brand yourself with a scarlet letter this way.

Uh, Zorba...probably not a good idea to use literary references around here...now you're going to have to explaing who Hester Prinn is.

Ming · May 17, 2001, 14:06

quote:

Originally posted by SuperSneak on 05-17-2001 11:17 AM
Uh, Zorba...probably not a good idea to use literary references around here...now you're going to have to explaing who Hester Prinn is.

Do students today still have to read that boring book

jake03 · May 17, 2001, 14:30

quote:

Originally posted by Ming on 05-17-2001 02:06 PM
Do students today still have to read that boring book

Oh book like with paper and stuff
so hester prinn is not a screen name, Right

Chris 62 · May 17, 2001, 14:40

quote:

Originally posted by SuperSneak on 05-17-2001 11:17 AM
Uh, Zorba...probably not a good idea to use literary references around here...now you're going to have to explaing who Hester Prinn is.

You knew what it meant, Brainiac.

But then, not everybody went to private school, did they?

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Lefty Scaevola · May 17, 2001, 14:58

quote:

Originally posted by Ming on 05-17-2001 02:06 PM
Do students today still have to read that boring book

No, they get to watch a nude Demi Moore in the part.

Ecthy · May 17, 2001, 15:20

EyesOfNight, the most obnoxious ***** under the CIV sun, does not deserve apologies...

your apologizing move is appreciated, though... it just makes him feel even stronger... *sigh*

GNGSpam · May 17, 2001, 17:36

Why is everyone saying The Shrew is so great because he fessed up? He is still scum for trying to frame someone in the first place. I dont care if he fessed up, I sure as hell wouldnt play him, afterall, who might he try to frame next? And would he fess up if it didnt look like he was going to get caught anyways?

Jeez, whats the world coming too

Rasputin · May 17, 2001, 19:07

I agree with GNG, this low life set up a fellow civ player ( yes he admitted cheating before) I cant beleive he had to stoop so low to actually doctor the files, if you think someone is cheting , fine then save the game turns ,but to actually alter files to try and prove a point is lower than a cheater, a cheater at least only brings shame upon himself, this lowlife scum has attempted to darken some one elses name...

Fortunalty he is not in my circle of friends so i dont have to worry about ever playing him !!!

rah · May 18, 2001, 08:27

Agreed. I'm please that he confessed, but it was still dispicable. And I wonder if his attempt wasn't so blatantly obvious, would he have still confessed.

RAH

Thank God I play with a high integrity group.

May 18, 2001, 11:31

Is it only me who is suspicious about this "confession". After all, it's the very first post of "settler" The Shrew..

I don't know anything about this case but I heavily doubt that anyone would introduce himself to Apolyton community like that.
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Ecthy · May 18, 2001, 11:40

yeah, he's Eyes!

Chris 62 · May 18, 2001, 15:08

quote:

Originally posted by Ecthelion on 05-18-2001 11:40 AM
yeah, he's Eyes!

Reading this again, considering the 'wounded' party's reaction, I think I'm coming around to my Teutonic comrade's way of thinking. I've heard these accusations about that player on other forums, by players I know and respect, so I think I now believe this is a scam.

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SunTzu · May 18, 2001, 15:19

Why is eyes a *****?
Can he not get any loving?
Was he abused as a child?
Is he on drugs?
Is he a psycho?
Is he a women?
Or is he just a 12 year old sissy that has to act bad on the net to make himself feel better?

Ming · May 18, 2001, 15:25

Enough with the lame personal attacks... If you have any doubts on whether this is a "scam" or not, you can always visit the CivFanatics site and see what is being said over there.

If you want to toss insults around, do it somewhere else or via email or icq...

So just chill!

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May 18, 2001, 17:34

HAHAHA!! I present to you Sun Tzu! Moderator of the forums on civfanatics. Still mad you can't touch me?

By the way, I withdraw my acceptance of Shrew's apology. Looking back he would have watched me be lynched had he not been caught. And Tact DID have a part in it. He was using his autosaves as proof, but if that's the case then he obviously had the original.

And Shrew only apologized in exchange for info on how I build cities so fast. He wouldn't have apologized at all if it weren't for that.
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Chris 62 · May 18, 2001, 18:22

In other words, you two deserve each other. You and I were wrong, Ming. Class had nothing to do with this.

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Ecthy · May 19, 2001, 08:48

Eyes doesn't behave like one should as a member of a community. He's a loner by choice, why should we give him love or respect?

I do respect him as a PLAYER of CIV, but not as a member of the community... my behaviour towards EON: honor in gameplay, yes. honor in forums, no.
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solo · May 19, 2001, 11:44

I'm with Ming on this. Coming down on someone else is a good way of directing attention away from something about themselves that namecallers are trying to hide. This site has too much class for this kind of stuff.