MS Office OneNote 2003 - Page 2

Adagio · October 3, 2003, 04:59

Interesting idea, though it's not much use, since I don't have a laptop, so I can't bring it to school

Isn't there a way to make the notes "hang" on the desktop instead?

Drake Tungsten · October 3, 2003, 05:09

Sounds like an interesting program, but it won't be much use to me if it has the same crap language support as every other MS application.

Imran Siddiqui · October 3, 2003, 05:36

What are the advantages to this system compared to say, saving notes in Word (and creating folders for each class and then putting your files for each class in them)? Considering I don't really have a need to draw in my notes

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Asher · October 3, 2003, 12:54

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Originally posted by ADG
Interesting idea, though it's not much use, since I don't have a laptop, so I can't bring it to school

Isn't there a way to make the notes "hang" on the desktop instead?

Yes, you can make it always-on-top.

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What are the advantages to this system compared to say, saving notes in Word (and creating folders for each class and then putting your files for each class in them)? Considering I don't really have a need to draw in my notes

If you don't need to draw or anything, and take words strictly linearly, OneNote doesn't offer too much of an advantage.

It does offer the flags which are very useful for keeping track of things (like reading, studying, homework, etc), and the find feature means you don't need to open each file and search each one individually -- search once and it'll look through all of the course files.

Asher · October 3, 2003, 12:55

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Sounds like an interesting program, but it won't be much use to me if it has the same crap language support as every other MS application.

You can use about 50 languages, I don't see what the problem is.

Adagio · October 3, 2003, 14:25

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Originally posted by Asher
Yes, you can make it always-on-top.

I'm talking about making it look like this:

MattH · October 3, 2003, 14:44

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010000100110111101110010011001010110010000101100 011000010111001001100101 011101110110010100111111

Yeah, I am

Imran Siddiqui · October 3, 2003, 16:01

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If you don't need to draw or anything, and take words strictly linearly, OneNote doesn't offer too much of an advantage.

It does offer the flags which are very useful for keeping track of things (like reading, studying, homework, etc), and the find feature means you don't need to open each file and search each one individually -- search once and it'll look through all of the course files.

Thanks

. I guess I'll just wait until Office 2004 (or 2005) then.... unless I can get '03 through nefarious means

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Paul Hanson · October 3, 2003, 16:18

I'm sure this is an immensely useful program, but I can't seem to get it to run. After I install it, I get the following error message:

The procedure entry point ?Set@Properties@Jot@@GXPAUIPropertySet@2@ABUProper tyInfo@2@PBXW4PropertyType@2@@Z could not be located in the dynamic link library MsoCFU.dll

Anyone have any ideas? Not that I'm particularly optimistic, but you never know.

Asher · October 3, 2003, 18:26

I've no idea, Paul.

ADG: Oh, that sort of thing is done through Outlook 2003 (screenshot attached). OneNote and Outlook are integrated very well, so you can create a new Outlook task from within OneNote.

Though there's a feature in OneNote called SideNote, where it puts a tray entry on bootup. When you click on it, a little window appears where you can enter a brief OneNote note, and it then places this inside a section of the notebook called "Side notes". It's useful for just little things you want to quickly write down and remember.

Drake Tungsten · October 3, 2003, 21:31

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You can use about 50 languages, I don't see what the problem is.

You've obviously never tried to type furigana in Word. That's four hours of my life that I'll never get back.

Asher · October 3, 2003, 23:24

The problem is you're trying to type furigana.

Drake Tungsten · October 4, 2003, 01:26

That's a problem? I guess basic Japanese language support is something MS hasn't quite mastered yet.

Drake Tungsten · October 4, 2003, 01:39

BTW, does anyone else think that Asher is the perfect spokesman for a product called "One Note"?

Asher · October 4, 2003, 03:46

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
That's a problem? I guess basic Japanese language support is something MS hasn't quite mastered yet.

Why should the English version support such a weird character set?

It supports most Western languages, but for weird languages like Japanese you need to buy the Japanese version (

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BTW, does anyone else think that Asher is the perfect spokesman for a product called "One Note"?

To be honest I thought somebody would say something like this far sooner.

Drake Tungsten · October 4, 2003, 03:49

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Why should the English version support such a weird character set?

Every non-MS application on OS X uses Apple's built-in support for Japanese. MS decided to go their own way, however, and ended up with an inferior system. Why can't the world's biggest software maker get their **** together?

Asher · October 4, 2003, 03:53

I think you got it mixed up.

Apple has shrinking market share, MS has saturated the market and still manages to gain marketshare.

MS isn't the one that needs to get their **** together.

The people who use Japanese on an English OS and Office Suite are not very common. If they want to use Japanese, they go for the Japanese versions.

I'm not sure why Office for the Mac doesn't support Japanese if the OS does natively, and frankly, I don't care. And 99.999999% of the people who buy the office suite feel the same way.

Drake Tungsten · October 4, 2003, 04:01

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The people who use Japanese on an English OS and Office Suite are not very common.

I beg to differ with you on that. With as much business that goes on between Japan and America, I would bet a sizeable number of people need a word processing program that supports both languages.

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I'm not sure why Office for the Mac doesn't support Japanese if the OS does natively, and frankly, I don't care.

Office does support Japanese. It just manages to support it in the most non-user friendly manner possible, somehow managing to make TextEdit's Japanese support look elegant. Quite amazing, really...

Asher · October 4, 2003, 04:03

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I beg to differ with you on that. With as much business that goes on between Japan and America, I would bet a sizeable number of people need a word processing program that supports both languages.

Most international business is conducted in English, is it not? Last I checked, it was.

Drake Tungsten · October 4, 2003, 04:10

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Most international business is conducted in English, is it not? Last I checked, it was.

Most of it is. However, that doesn't mean there isn't a need for Japanese language support in American operating systems. Even if only a small portion of international business requires Japanese use, it is still a huge need given the sheer amount of business being done.

Imran Siddiqui · October 4, 2003, 05:40

Yeah, MS is really dropping the ball by not having Japanese language support. That's just silly, IMO. It ain't that difficult and the benefits are great.

Drake Tungsten · October 4, 2003, 05:43

Was that sarcastic or not? I swear, this damn country will be the death of my sarcasm detection skills...

Imran Siddiqui · October 4, 2003, 05:48

No that wasn't sarcastic... if it was there would be a smily... you know how I operate by now

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Drake Tungsten · October 4, 2003, 05:54

Sorry. Posting at the same time as Laz is throwing me off.

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Yeah, MS is really dropping the ball by not having Japanese language support.

To be fair, MS does support Japanese. The support is just very disappointing, especially considering the excellent international support built into OS X. I don't really expect Word to support Gujarti or Catalan like OS X does, but it could at least allow me to type in furigana without having to change all my application menus to Japanese.

Whaleboy · October 4, 2003, 09:43

How did you get hold of it, and how can I get it for free? (the linux legacy... i refuse to pay for software).

It looks pretty sweet though.

Sirotnikov · October 4, 2003, 12:56

Asher - your XP is looking much nicer than the default version. How?

mrmitchell · October 4, 2003, 13:48

It looks like a nice gizmo but one I don't need. ...

St Leo · October 4, 2003, 13:50

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Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Asher - your XP is looking much nicer than the default version. How?

He obviously skinned it with StyleXP or WindowBlinds.

However, IMHO, it looks even uglier than Luna and far, far uglier than Windows Classic.

Adagio · October 4, 2003, 14:44

I'd say it looks slighty better than Windows Classic... but of course, Windows Classic is the ugliest thing I've ever seen, so it doesn't take much to beat it...

Sirotnikov · October 4, 2003, 15:50

I used windows blinds for windows 98 but haven't used it since. It still exists? I assume I need a newer version?