Comments on these units

Eternal · July 20, 2000, 04:25

I've decided to draw some of my own units for a project, partly because I'll never find all the graphics already made out, and because I'm not a huge fan of scanned, "Hi-res" units.

These are a M2 Bradley, a Marder, and 2 infantry units (The first to be used by "Western" armies, the other by the Warsaw Pact and Yugoslavia).

I was able to obtain images for a great deal of the equipment involved, but if anyone can help me find them for the following it'll help and you'll be credited:

GCT 155mm (French SP gun)
Pz 68/88 (Swiss tank)
FMC/NUROL, FMC/NUROL 120mm (Turkish tank and SP gun... are these the actual names? I got them from the OAoW2 manual)
S-4K7F (Austrian IFV/APC)
IAFV (Italian IFV/APC)
Palmaria 155mm(Italian SP gun)
S211 (Italian plane)
Roland (SAM system-can't find a GOOD image)

Case · July 20, 2000, 05:34

try www.fas.org - its got heaps of photos of tanks and stuff, and lots of links.
www.army-technology.com is also good

Evil Capitalist · July 20, 2000, 06:43

Eternal. If you want a playtester for this any time send the scen to me.

St Leo · July 20, 2000, 15:31

You may want to use a wider range of greens hues in these - the colours are far too similar to each other.

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Prometeus · July 20, 2000, 17:35

Got most of the pics you need... i just have to scan these pics.

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Mao · July 20, 2000, 20:05

grrrrrrr....am I the only one who still can't load the pic??? God...I can never see the pics!

PolarisGL · July 20, 2000, 20:14

Neither can I.

Eternal · July 20, 2000, 22:21

Mao, Polaris > Have you tried to just go to the url?

Case... www.fas.org is what I used for the quipment I already have. I'll try the other site

Anyway, I think I don't think I'm going to use a map in which I have to include the Turks, Italians, Yugoslavians, and Spanish. In the old units I didn't even have room for bombers or helicopters, and specific classes of ships. Maybe now I can include some of these.

Thanks
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Case · July 20, 2000, 22:22

You should also try the Janes books on armoured fighting vehciles, past and present. These are typically advailable from decent bookshops and libaries.

Evil Capitalist · July 21, 2000, 03:02

quote:

Originally posted by Eternal on 07-20-2000 10:21 PM
Anyway, I think I don't think I'm going to use a map in which I have to include the Turks, Italians, Yugoslavians, and Spanish.
[This message has been edited by Eternal (edited July 20, 2000).]

I assume this is a NATO vs Warsaw Pact scenario. In that case you should put Turkey and Itay in NATO and (if it's post 60s) France out. I tried splitting NATO in my cold war scenario, but it meant you couldn't land troops to help so easily, which was irritating.

Mao · July 22, 2000, 01:59

OK...I see it now...not bad...got any MBTs?

Eternal · July 22, 2000, 03:25

Italy and Turkey and Spain are a non-issue because nothing south of the Alps will be on the map at all. Germany is where most the action will be, so it is pretty big. Scandinavia is covered, but is shrunk somewhat. Also, though it is set circa 1984, I am including France as part of NATO, because even if it wasn't part of the ICS, when it sees the Red Storm moving in, I imagine it'll straighten up right quickly.

Mao... Yes, the T-72, T-62, and T-55 are present, as well as the Leopard 2, Challenger, AMX-30, and the Americans will hae bothe M60 Patton and the M1A1 Abrams. The Abrams won't be there at the start but the idea is that America will step up deployment when USSR mobilizes. Also, Sweden will have the Ikv and Austria the Kurassier.

Evil Capitalist · July 22, 2000, 03:43

*drool*

Captain Nemo · July 23, 2000, 01:38

I made a scenario a while back about the Gulf War. The units in it are pretty good, not quite Red Front quality but close.
They include:
M1, Bradley, Patriot, AMX30, Challenger, M60, T-62, T-72, SCUD launcher, SAM batteries, Nimitz carrier, F15, F16, Mig23, A10 etc... They are in desert camo colors but that could easily be changed.

July 23, 2000, 02:14

Where can I find it?!

Mao · July 23, 2000, 02:29

hahaha, I remember that Nemo! I still have it! It was under Michael Nielson right?

Eternal · July 23, 2000, 02:49

Nemo, I read of this scenario when I was reading topics from months ago. Where can I get it.

Evil Capitalist · July 23, 2000, 03:25

Yes tell us, goddam it!

Captain Nemo · July 23, 2000, 19:12

I don't know if it's anywhere on the web. I had it posted on Compuserve's gamers library... But I don't know if that's open for general access.

Where did you get it Mao? I have seen a lot of the units in different libraries so I assume that it is available somewhere...

I still have the units in a graphic library and I'll gladly send them to you next week (I'm on a laptop right now and don't have access to my home computer)

Mao · July 23, 2000, 22:00

Where did I get it? I think I got it from someone here when I asked like 5 or 6 months ago...

Captain Nemo · July 24, 2000, 00:43

Mao:
Who is that Mike Nelson guy?

Eternal · July 25, 2000, 21:14

Wasn't Mike Nelson the second human on Mystery Science Theater 3000?

DarthVeda · July 26, 2000, 07:24

What of the T-80?

Eternal · July 26, 2000, 14:50

DarthVeda, I don't think the T-80 was in service by the time this starts. And if it were, it wouldn't need to be included since it is very much like a T-72. The T-72, T-62, and T-55 are all quite different though.

Mao..
NO that's DAVE Nelson. NewsRadio is one of my top five favorite sitcoms, so trust me.
Mike Nelson was on MST3K, and in the movie too I think.

Mao · July 27, 2000, 00:29

No! Mike Nelson was the news-director at WNYX! ...or Nemo's old alias...either way...and it's Nielson, Nelson is the news-director.

Mao · July 27, 2000, 01:11

Damn! Yeah...you're right...I was close...