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Your favorite game, for each genre
It's been a while since last "Favorite game" votes, so here it is...
...though this time it's a little different:
You may vote for 3 different games, for each genre
I wont decide which genres to vote for, but if it seems too obvious that some poster voted for a game of one genre, that defently belongs to another genre, I'll point it out...
Post your votes like this:
Genre1
1) BestGame
2) SecondGame
3) LastGame
Genre2
1) BestGame
2) ...youGetThePoint...
When calculating:
#1 gives 10 points
#2 gives 4 points
#3 gives 1 points
OR you may distribute all 15 points for up to 3 games for each genre
I'll post my top games later
An updated list of votes is to find on this page
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October 8, 2003, 12:24
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Genre: TBS
1) SMAC/X
2) Galactic Civilizations
3) Master of Magic
Genre: RTS
1) Command and Conquer, Red Alert
2) Star Craft
3) Rise of Nations
Genre: Sim type Games
1) Caesar III
2) Sid Meier's SimGolf
3) Sim City 4
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October 8, 2003, 13:52
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Here's my votes:
TBS:
1) Worms 3D (Have only played the demo, and I'm already addicted )
2) Worms World Party
3) Civilization 3
RTS:
1) The Settlers II - Veni Vidi Vici
2) Rise of Nations
3) Dune 2
Tactic RTS:
1) Syndicate Wars (10)
2) Syndicate (5)
Tycoon:
1) SimCity 4
2) Tropico
3) RollerCoaster Tycoon
Adventure:
1) The Longest Journey
2) Grim Fandango
3) Sanitarium
FPS:
1) Duke Nukem 3D
2) Serious Sam
3) Serious Sam - Second Encounter
Fighting:
1) Tekken 2
2) Mortal Kombat II
3) Tekken 3
Other: (Hard to define)
1) Lemmings 2 - The Tribes (10)
2) Boulder Dash (5)
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October 8, 2003, 14:43
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Can they be any game?
TBS:
1) Civ 2 MGE
2) HOMM 2
3) Worms Armageddon
RTS:
1) Warcraft 2
2) Starcraft
3) Diablo 2
Tactic RTS:
none.
Tycoon:
1) Sim City 2000
Adventure:
1) Space Quest 4
FPS:
1) Descent 10 pt
2) Duke Nukem 3D 5 pt
Fighting:
1) Tekken Tag
Other: (Hard to define)
1) Lost Vikings
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October 8, 2003, 15:04
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[Genre: TBS
1) Moo
2) Civilization III
3) Homm
Genre: RTS
1) Command and Conquer
2) Total Annihilation
3) War Craft
Genre: RPG
1) Might and Magic
2) Diablo II
3) Bauldars Gate
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October 8, 2003, 15:06
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Can they be any game?
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Yes, but a game and a game with expansion packs/mods is counted as one game... not different games... (Civ2 = Civ2 with addons)
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RTS:
3) Diablo 2
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Wouldn't that be RPG?
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Tactic RTS:
none.
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You don't have to mention the genres, where you don't want to vote for something... there's other genres than those I have mentioned, so don't just look at my genre pick...
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October 8, 2003, 16:03
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TBS:
1) CTP 2
2) CTP 1
3) Freeciv
Shoot em up/Scrolling Shooters:
1) Radiant Silvergun
2) Soukyugurentai
3) Metal Slug
Beat em up/Fighting:
1) Virtua Fighter 2
2) Xmen Vs. Street Fighter
3) Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Tycoon/Manager/Builder/God Games:
1) Sim City 2000 8pts
2) Theme Park 7pts
Sport or Simulation Games?:
1) Championship Manager 01/02 10pts
2) Track and Field 5pts
FPS:
1) Half-Life 10pts
2) Virtua Cop 2 5pts
Platform Games:
1) Sonic 2
Other:
1) NiGHTS into Dreams
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October 8, 2003, 16:18
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TBS
1. Civ2
2. Imp2
3. SMAC
RTS
1. Age of Empires
2. 1602
(Those are the only two i own. I think id rank AOE high even if i had a lot more. Ive only played the demo of 7k, but id be inclined to put that down as number 3)
Wargames
(Should this be a seperate category, or roll up with RTS and TBS?)
1. SMG/SMA
2. RE Lee: Civil War General
(Again i dont own many - SMG would be up there in any case, i suspect CWG wouldnt be. If this isnt a category, SMG should be number 2 RTS)
Simtype games
1. Simcity 2000
2. Caesar 3
3. Simtown
(number 3 is hard, sim town is a kid's game, but succeeds at what its trying to do better as far as i cant tell better than simcopter or simtower, the best ive yet found on simania pack. simearth i never really overcame interface issues)
Adventure
1. Colossal Cave
2. Zork
3. Myst
(another hard one - Myst is only game ive bought, but it doesnt deserve many points. I dont remember which Zork - the text based one that starts you outside a house with a mailbox)
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October 8, 2003, 16:40
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Wargames
(Should this be a seperate category, or roll up with RTS and TBS?)
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I don't know... I have no clue what wargames is... is it a game where you have to build buildings/train soldiers, or do you just command your troops around?
If it's the latter one, I believe it will go under Tactic games... but since I haven't played them, I'm not sure... what do you others say about this?
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October 8, 2003, 16:52
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Originally posted by ADG
I don't know... I have no clue what wargames is... is it a game where you have to build buildings/train soldiers, or do you just command your troops around?
If it's the latter one, I believe it will go under Tactic games... but since I haven't played them, I'm not sure... what do you others say about this?
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"Wargames" is used by many to indicate a strategy game that models an actual historical war or battle, with some degree of accuracy (though it may include scenario making tools as well, like The Operational Art of War) It generally wouldnt include producing new units - though a grand strategy level game like axis and allies or the more realistic third reich do allow that. But its more like use production points to create a division - not build a barracks and generate troops there - which simply is too inaccurate in terms of scale and otherwise. A game like HOI or EU models an actual historical situation, and and allows creation of units, but at least in the case of EU is not considered a wargame since its possible to win without actually going to war (this has generated great debate on Csipg.warhistorical) HOI is closer to a war game in this respect.
The two games I have referred to are Sid Meiers Gettysburg (together with its follow up Sid Meiers Antietam) and Robert E Lee Civil War General. The latter is a typical TBS wargame with units representing brigades (note well - if you cant say what size units your "units" represent (as in AOE) you're NOT playing a wargame). SMG/SMA is atypical in that its RT, but is both strongly historically accurate, and in many other respects fits better with other wargames than with RTS. Im not familiar with Tactical real time other than SMG/SMA, so im not sure if it really belongs there.
Myself, I think Wargames deserve a seperate category, but not if it creates confusion.
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October 8, 2003, 16:54
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TBS :
1. SMAC/X
2. Master of Magic
3. Master of Orion 2
RTS :
1. Hearts of Iron
2. Medieval : Total War
3. Sudden Strike 2
RPG :
1. Baldurs Gate 2
2. Baldurs Gate 1
3. Icewind Dale 2
Puzzle :
1. Lemmings
2. Oh no! More Lemmings
3. Lemmings 2 (yes I love lemmings games)
Sport/Sim games
1. Sensible World of Soccer
2. Sim City 2000
3. Sim Life
That should keep you busy playing that lot It keeps me busy enough.
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October 8, 2003, 16:56
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Myself, I think Wargames deserve a seperate category, but not if it creates confusion.
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There are two sorts of wargames - TBS or RTS. The games should fall under those two catagories. Perhaps your favorite TBS is a wargame, perhaps its chess. Eh?
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October 8, 2003, 17:05
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Originally posted by Jamski
There are two sorts of wargames - TBS or RTS. The games should fall under those two catagories. Perhaps your favorite TBS is a wargame, perhaps its chess. Eh?
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But my favorite RTS is Sid Meiers Gettysburg, and i think comparing how it models a civil war battle with how CWG or Norm Koger's "Age of Rifles" does makes more sense than comparing it with with Warcraft.
And I note that one of your favorite RTS is Medieval Total War, which IIUC has a TB strategic "wrapper".
Frankly I think the whole TBS/RTS breakdown doesnt make much sense anymore, especially not for the historically oriented games i like most.
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October 8, 2003, 17:05
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Originally posted by Jamski
Puzzle :
1. Lemmings
2. Oh no! More Lemmings
3. Lemmings 2 (yes I love lemmings games)
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Hmmm... maybe I should add my Lemmings game to Puzzle instead... that would fit better... just couldn't remember that word at that time...
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Sport/Sim games
1. Sensible World of Soccer
2. Sim City 2000
3. Sim Life
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Soccer = sport, therefor it should go to the sport category
SimCity, SimWhatEver = Tycoon, therefor they goes to Tycoon games (I know there has been some talk about this before, but since I'm the creator of the thread, I choose SimCity type of games to belong to Tycoon games
I wont add your votes for tonight... that has to wait til tomorow...
For all people I have questioned something:
I haven't added the parts in the question (e.g. Diablo in RTS and wargame, and those), and I wont add them until I'm sure about what the votes should be added as
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October 8, 2003, 17:09
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edited cause i made a silly mistake.
Im thinking of starting my own thread on favorite games by topic, thus bypassing the genre disitinctions i dislike.
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October 8, 2003, 20:09
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Yeah but like you say its just a wrapper.
Noone plays M:TW because the province management is so wonderful. The game is all about BIG FIGHTS in real time. The rest is just a bit extra, which is always nice
Axis and Allies you would compare with HoI?
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October 9, 2003, 15:31
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Yeah but like you say its just a wrapper.
Noone plays M:TW because the province management is so wonderful. The game is all about BIG FIGHTS in real time. The rest is just a bit extra, which is always nice
Axis and Allies you would compare with HoI?
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Ive not played either. My impression is that the reason not to compare them is cause HOI is more complex, realistic, etc. Not cause its RT. Which would you compare Strategic Command (also TB) to, A&A or HOI?
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October 9, 2003, 17:35
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RPG
1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Final Fantasy VI
3. Chrono Trigger
I occasionally play Simcity and Civ but not enough for a category itself
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October 9, 2003, 18:02
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I'm not categorizing! Because there are only few games I still remember being very impressed, that I still play them every once in a while:
X-Com series
Baldurs Gate
Syndicate
Falcon 3.0
Half Life
Command & Conquer
Doom
Crusader: No Remorse
.. these were the games that I was very impressed at the time, so much that I still like to install them every now and then and let the beast inside of my go at it. I'm forgetting some games for sure that are in the same level, but these I remember now from thinking fast.
and with Amiga:
Lost Vikings
Lemmings 2
Alien Breed III
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October 9, 2003, 18:44
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Here are mine, which show my age.
TBS:
1) Civ I - which I've played more than any other game.
2) Lords of Midnight (Old ZX Spectrum game)
3) Imperium Galacticum (the old Atari ST game)
4) SMAC
Don't laugh - I could have selected "Star Trek" for the System 80
RTS:
1) Europa Universalis II
2) Gettysburg
3) Dune 2 (the original one)
4) Tropico
Adventure:
1) The Hobbit!!
Flight Sim:
1) Falcon 4
2) Tornado
3) Gunship 2000
Space:
1) Elite
2) X Wing
FPS:
1) Doom
2) Doom 2
Other: (Hard to define)
1) Spellbound
2) Dun Darach
3) SkoolDaze
4) Jet Set Willy
5) Manic Miner
That's some ancient stuff
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October 9, 2003, 18:58
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I remember classic games such as wolf 3D, doom and Final fantasy 4, but if it didnt have competive gameplay, I find myself growing out of it sooner or later. I really tried to extend the fun out of sonic 2 and final fantasy 6, but there only so much single player you can play until you can play through levels and beat computer as if ur a computer urself....
So here are my best multiplayer game list by genre
RTS
Starcraft:Broodwar
Red Alert
Warcraft III
FPS
Quake
UT 2K3
Counter Strike (or half life if that counts as mod)
2D Fighting
Super Street fighter II Turbo
Guilty Gear XX
Marvel vs Capcom 2
3D fighting
Soul Calibur II
Virtua fighter 4: Evo
Tekken Tag
Sports
Madden 2K3
NBA Live 2K3? (one with kidd on cover)
NBA JAM!!!!!! ("He's on fire!")
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October 10, 2003, 00:06
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TBS:
1) SMAC
2) Civ (1)
3) Master of Magic
RTS:
1) Command & Conquer (orig)
2) Warcraft (II)
RPG:
1) Nethack
Arcade/Atari:
1) Rygar
2) Space Invaders
3) Defender
FPS:
1) Doom II
2) Doom (orig)
Palm / PDA (for what these are worth):
1) Dope Wars
2) PAC (Philip Jaquenoud's version)
3) Graviton
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October 10, 2003, 05:25
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Pekka >>
You scores wont be calculated unless you put them in genre your-self... I don't know all of your games...
Agathon >>
Vote #4 and #5 in your votes wont be calculated... the limit is 3
And Space is not an category... SMAC is also in space, but it's not in the "space category"... you need to find a specific category for those games...
And Tropico isn't RTS, it's Tycoon... want me to add it as #1 in a Tycoon category?
Zero >>
2D fighting is the same as 3D fighting, so I wont count your fighting games before you edit it...
MattyBoy >>
Your palm games wont be calculated unless you set the in the usual genres... I computer isn't a genre, and we don't go by computers here (As you've seen, both Amiga. Atari, PC, etc games are calculated as the same...)
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October 10, 2003, 05:58
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Finally updated:
Lord of the Mark >> I've included the wargames genre... Happy now?
And could you PLEASE write the full name of the game... I've got no idea what HOMM and SMG/SMA is!!!
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Heros of Might and Magic
Sid Meiers Getteysberg
Sid Meiers Antieam
(I can't spell the names of these insignificant battles )
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October 10, 2003, 09:30
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You mean SMG/SMA is two different games?
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Strategy:
1) Europa Universalis 2
2) Civilization 2
3) Warlords III
RTS:
1) Warlords Battlecry II
2) Total Annihilation
3) Kohan
Shooter:
1) Duke3D
2) Doom
3) Serious Sam
Sim:
1) Transport Tycoon Deluxe
2) SimEarth
3) SimCity 2000
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Oh oh oh
Strategy/TB
1. SMAC
2. Imperialism I/II
3. Civ III
Adventure
1. The Longest Journey (one of the best games ever!)
2. Syberia -ditto
3. Curse of Monkey Island
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3) SkoolDaze
4) Jet Set Willy
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October 11, 2003, 10:42
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TBS:
1) civ2
2) nothing does even come close to civ2
3) worms armageddon
RTS
1) RoN
2) Carrier Command
3) Supremacy
RPG/Adventure
1) Pirates!
2) Diablo2
3) Morrowind
Sport
1) Colin McRae 2
2) NHL 200x
3) Fifa 200x
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