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Old October 23, 2003, 01:55   #121
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To the WAF:
Oh well.

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Continue pushing forward. Step up bombing efforts, and begin targeting major cities.
Take no prisoners.
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Old October 23, 2003, 02:15   #122
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Oppostion against our reunification is apparent. We must hold back. However we wish for a full comprehensive alliance and a timetable for possible reunification to be set forward.

Futhermore we would like your help if India or Russia decide to deploy troops into our territory.

To China (secret) We would like your help to aid us against a possible incursion from the Indians or Russians.

To Canada, Mexico, New Boston and other allies (secret) If India or Russia attacks us can we count on your support
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Any troops not of WAF origin on our soil will be interned and if they have to be killed in their capture their blood is onyou hands. We will not bow down to any threats and we will defend our independence from all nations to the hilt.
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Old October 23, 2003, 03:13   #124
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We will not discontinue our attack without authorization from the USA.
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Now that war broke out, all our hopes for peace in America suddenly vanished and turned into shock.
But who started this war? Sources are hard to find, and most of them are biased or state-controlled. For us it seems as if our brothers of India have made a terrible diplomatic mistake.

We see no evidence that the WAF began the armed conflict, since they just gave a warning, when Indian troops began assaulting foreign soil.

The bombing of "major cities" is not agreeable. Since the situation is that tricky, India shouldn´t push the world´s public against her by committing civil warfare. We ask you, India, publically to retreat from American soil. Please do so, the world knows you can beat the WAF, but the wise leader knows how to use his power right.

My daughters Chang and Liu have left China today and began a short trip to the WAF. Should they be harmed by ANY military troops in that region it will be considered a hostility against diplomats and therefor a violation of the Genevan Convention. From the bottom of my heart I ask both India and Russia to reconsider their policy and return to their great homecountries.

- Huang Di, Emperor of China

To WAF (SECRET)
What kind of aid are you thinking of? We won´t interfere militarily in this conflict unless we are attacked ourselves. The Indian nation is a friend of ours, and we have no claims on America, so our hands are tied. Russian deployment of troops in the USA is not acceptable, they weren´t invited by any party, and their stalinistic regime is a thread to the world. Should they act hostile in your country, this would give us a base to take actions upon.

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Old October 23, 2003, 04:00   #126
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To China:
We do not believe we are at any fault...However you are a close and trusted friend. Therefore, we are going to pull out of America completly.
I have made a great mistake attempting to invade the WAF. India was attacked, however we cannot go invade them without the backing of our friends for India is not served by going it alone.
However, they must be punished. As such, we are declaring a complete embargo against the rogue states of the WAF, and we are pulling recognition on them as an independant nation.

To the USA:
(Secret) I am sorry, however I do not have the international backing to continue the war effort. You are on your own.

ORDERS:
Begin a "fighting retreat"
Pull out of America completly.
Begin an isolationist foreign policy.
Slash aid to foreign countries in half.
Discontinue all unrequired imports (Eg imports costing India money without bringing many benefits)
Recall all intellects from the Asian University.

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CALCUTTA TIMES (Translated by Engrish Incorperated)

Rumours of No-Confidence Vote Spread Amidst Foreign Policy One-Hundred-Eighty Degree Turn Around

As Tassadar begins to keep India for Indians, rumours are spreading of a threatened No-Confidence vote by the Presidents own party, the Communist Party, are spreading all around India.
"We may possibly have had a discussion of this...." Said Gujarata Nicho, leader of the Communist Party of India.
We will keep you tuned into our teleivision with your eyes glued open, so dont go away!
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From the WAF: As you only managed to damage the city of Salt Lake City in your bombings and most of your planes were shot down in their assualts We find your retreat from our soil to be most agreeable.
However we must demand that you repay us for the damage you have caused in your illegal and an unwarranted invasions. You were not ever attacked by our nation, you know it, I know it, and my satelties scanning the US border region show it. I will also realease those satelite images showing India to be at fault. Futhermore we ask that you pull out of Pakistan as those people do not wish to be annexed by the Indian state nor deserve it.

To USA (secret) I think we need to work together to secure that America's destiny as a whole is decided by those who live on our great lands, not those who live beyond them. We propose a full comprehensive alliance once again.

To China (secret) We thank you for your words to India and hope that they shall continue. We also welcome your daughters to our great land and will work for their security at all times keeping an eye on them to make sure they are not harmed.

To Russia: Withdraw your troops from the USA. If a single sodier crosses the border we will declare war on you.

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Increase army (1 turn lots of people will want to join after beating India)
Increase Air Force (1 turn lots of people will want to join after beating India)
Increase Navy (1 turn lots of people will want to join after beating India)
Increase Economy (2 turns, trade with China and Canada growing)
Begin research for better weapons (estimated time 4 turns)
Show Satelite Imagery of the US border region showing that India caused the war with the WAF with the world.
Hold elections in the WAF. Parties are Fascist, Socialist, Democratic and Federalists.
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Old October 23, 2003, 10:57   #129
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Ha! We only lost one plane, as our airbase count will show, and we will not pay you a single American penny for any damages we incurred upon you. Quite frankly, you deserved it.
And Pakistan is not an affair that concerns you. I have listened to my ally of China, but do not push it.
Furthermore, if you declare war on Russia you will find even more troops crossing your border, even more missiles flying over your heads and even more (improved!) bombers bombing your installations and cities. Again, I have respected the wishes of China but Russia has always been a close ally. Any attack on her will be defended.
Push your luck and you will find we will continue to smash your military as we did in the war.
And your satellite pictures are of no use to us. Not only are your satellites severly dated, but you will no doubt forge them.
ALSO...You wish to hold elections? Then how about we have China monitor them to ensure that they are legitimate and you are not holding a gun to voters heads? I find it highly doubtful that you would overthrow your own government to a communist dictatorship and then overthrow it to a democracy.

To China:
Keep your newfound friend in check, lest he finds himself in another paradigm.

To Russia (Secret):
We must deal with the WAF problem. He will invade the USA, he has told me of this when I decieved him...
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Old October 23, 2003, 11:55   #131
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To India (secret) You have been fooled for a long time friend. I has always planned to make sure India never touched the WAF. Now that you have done it we of course an tell you to get bent.

To Russia (secret) We do not wish for war only non-American troops out of America. We do not propose landing troops in your backyard, and neither should you.

To China (secret) We thank you again for your words. We will repay this debt that the people of the WAF owe to the Emperor of China.

occ: No not really after stopping an attack on the WAF the people of the WAF will want to make sure that it never will happen again and hence will come to the military in droves.
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I will dismiss the latest comments made privately by Sheep to myself. *Posts comments* For they are simply an attempt at salvaging what little national "pride" they have left.
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We would like all sides to agree to a cease fire while the WAF and we talk.

US to Russia:
Please, remove your troops from North America no side asked for them to be there.
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Old October 23, 2003, 19:32   #134
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You seem awful quick to quick everyone out to talk with WAF....You would not be betraying India, would you? We become increasingly suspicious of your actions.
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Thank you for ceasing hostilities with the WSA! This reconsideration of your policy shows the great wisdom and openmindedness of your leader!

Please don´t leave the Asian University project! Your nation is one of the most advanced in sciences and has an old and rich culture the world shouldn´t miss at Kunming. Your wise men are welcome, even appreciated to continue participating in the joint project! We want the University to become an example for international cooperation and respect, please add the Indian part...

Furthermore we´d like to strengthen our relationship with the Indian people. What do you need? On a side note, our policy regarding the WSA is limited to a peace policy and trade relations, as we don´t want to go to war anymore. That´s the reason too why China is not a part of any international (non-Asian) alliance. We want to prosper in peace, as that´s the way Buddha chose for all people.

Long live the Indian people!

To Tibet
Your changes to the charta of reunification are mostly agreeable, besides two parts:
First, as Tibet would be part of the Empire again, the Empire (in a federal meaning) needs to have souvereignity of military matters. We assure you the following:
1) Never will hostilities start from Chinese ground ever again
2) No Tibetian will ever be conscripted or forced to guns
3) In case of hostilities, no Tibetian will need to join the war
4) The holy city of Lhasa will never be entered by armed forces
Our intent is to create an equal level of national (federal) security in all parts of the empire, so we need to station garrisons along the borders and on key points (except for Lhasa).
The second issue we´d have to agree about is the laws. Our reason for putting the Chinese laws on top of the Tibetian is to prevent Chinese individuals or companies to use more "eased" Tibetian laws to gain any advantages over their brothers in other parts of the empire. This only applies for penal law and business laws. Furthermore we need to have your insurance not to grant immunity to any criminals in Tibet.

About religion:
Both Tibet and China are mainly buddhist countries. We grant full tolerance for all religions as long as they don´t interfere with other people´s religions, such as conversioning. Each individual may chose it´s own religion except for those violating Chinese laws.

Does that satisfy your people?
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Since we are all about peace we will withdraw our troops. How ever if you ever do need a DMZ we will put our men in it if you wish.

To: China
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Since Russia is mostly asian could we join the Asian University?
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From the WAF: If we wish for a DMZ I can assure you, Russian or Indian troops wil not be involoved.
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Usually we don't try to be hostile to other nations but you have made Russia angry. Do not try anything!

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India and Russia have been having problems with the WAF and USA, expecially with the WAF. We ask you to trade-embargo both.
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To China:
Thank you for your compliments I was blinded for my protection of India that I did not consider my allies and for that I am sorry.
We are not pulling out of the Asian University! Our intellects are coming back because of a local conference called by the government on a re-assesment of foreign policy reviews. They should be back within (one turn). However unfortunately this is a government-only meeting, so I'm afraid your citizens cannot attend However any input China has to give will be warmly welcomed and discussed!
And yes, there is something that we do need. Recently production of fish has dropped, and we would like to offer you a trade deal so that we can begin restocking our supplies until this situation is resolved?
Also...Soon, the Indian Independance Celebration will begin. We would like to invite you and all Chinese whom wish to come to Delhi to partake in this evening of culture and celebration!

To the WAF:
You are making a lot of enemies out of a lot of great powers. I highly recommend you lighten up on your foreign policy.

To the Asian University:
I would have no opposition to Russian intellects joining the University. They have a blend of both European and Asianic influence that would give a nice addition.
Not to mention their architecture would be glorious

To China and Tibet:
India would like to propose the following:
-Tibet does not harbour Chinese criminals unless for religious reasons. In this case, India will mediate.
-Tibetan law will supercede Chinese law unless in cases of internal security, where Chinese law will supercede Tibetan law.
-The city of Lhasa will be declared immune to Chinese forces.
-Any Chinese forces caught violating Tibetan laws will be expelled from Tibet.
-If China itself violates Tibetan law, China will immediately pay reparations or lose all territorial, political, and economic claims on Tibet.
-Tibet will be allowed to retain its national identity.
-All Tibetans will be immune to conscription laws. However, Tibetans will still retain the right to join the Chinese army if they so choose.
India would also like to promote development in Tibet. We are giving 5,000,000 rupees for Tibet to spend in any way they wish whether it be on religious monestaries or whatnot.
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The WAF and the USA have talked about their diffrences and have started by signing a treaty of co-operation and a free trade treaty. This will be endorsed by the President of the United States as it has been endorsed by the Govenor-General of the West American Fedederation when he is able to.
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To the USA (Secret):
Your desire for a united USA under your control has resulted in the loss of Indian friendship. I am sorry.

To China (Secret):
Pardon me for not including this in my previous message. However, i have noticed you are not using your populace efficently to build up your economy. We have learned the secrets of increasing productivity and increasing happiness, and we are glad to share them with you

Orders:
Declare embargo against the USA
Encourage businesses to instead move to Russia and China instead of America. Spend 20Mil on this.
Ask god what my population is. (God, it must be above 2Bil. That's already been projected very shortly IRL....)
Issue government order to collect .01 rupees (1 cent) from each family per person in each family, (Should, at minimum, result in an immediate infusion of $20Mil. Isn't that NEAT? ) and ask (but make it optional) for families to donate $1 to the Indian government.
Create "Asian Development Fund", and invite all peoples of the world to donate. Do NOT use this money for any military reasons, but instead as a fund for the social and economic development of asian nations. Put $5 mil in this fund initially.
Increase education spending, and re-affirm commitment to an educated Indian populace.

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DELHI DELICATESSEN- A NEWSPAPER FOR INDIANS BYE INDIANS! (Translation provided by Engrish Incorperated)

New Other-People Policy a Hit with Indians!
We here at the Delhi Delicatessen would like to clap our hands to make noise the President for a new, better other-people policy especially concerning our Asian male siblings!
And it does appear to be a hit with Indians! Both the Indian Times and the Peoples Daily (Chinese) have reported that the Presidents approval ratings have shot up. Formerly they were at a low 42 percent, however now they are enjoying a cold 72 percent. The poll indicates the other-people policy is the fattest reason, however commitment to China was cited as well as the Bangladeshi integration.

Holidays are Coming up - Work Out More!
Prices are going down in India for the holiday season! Nows the time to buy stuff for family and friends! Glory to India!!!

India asks for .01, let's give them a rupee!
Guess what? If we give simply a rupee, then our government will get 2 BILLION rupees! It is a small expense for you, and it will let our government spend even more on things that are good like learning and social services!
In fact, let's donate even more! Let's donate ten dollars! What will you lose? Maybe one day at McGandhis? And our government will get 20 BILLION rupees! Wow!
And if each Indian gives 1000 rupees...Our government will get a ground-breaking 2 trillion rupees. We calculate that with that much money, every school in India could get ultra-modern facilities to learn including internet with lightning speed! And even more things! So donate money to our government and be not only an Indian, but an ASIAN!

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Old October 24, 2003, 14:58   #143
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BTW:

This is the population for each of your state:
From top to bottom

India: 2.130.000.000 (including former Bangladesh (420.000.000), India alone was 1.710.000.000)
Working population: 55%
(the fact that India is now much more modernised have slowed and later on stopped population growth... so it didn't hit 2 Billions alone... but still.. that's one heck of a population)

China: 2.040.000.000
Working Popualtion: 67%

Austro-European Union: 1.560.000.000
Working Population: 52%

USA: 320.000.000
Working Population: 60%

WAF: 290.000.000
Working Population: 65%

Brazil: 240.000.000
Working Population: 72%

Russia: 200.000.000
Working Population: 65%

New Boston Empire: 120.000.000
Working Population: 76%

By the way:
With "Working Population" I don't mean the actual working population... but the percentage of people that is in the working age (18-67)

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Old October 24, 2003, 15:50   #144
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October 2178

Assorted Diplomacy
I excuse myself for the poor grammar or spelling... but I'm a little drunk... right now... (getting ready to a huge party for tonight)


To: NSWAF
From: Canada,

You may always count on our help, Our radar are scanning your air space, should any non-WAF or non-North American Pact of Friendship military aircraft that was not authorised by you, our air force will take off to shot 'em down.

To: NSWAF
From: Mexico, Other Central American States

We'll always back our allies.

To: India
From: Pakistan

I hope you realize that all the territories east of the Indu river is roughly half our territory... we van't accept your conditions.
However we will accept any kind of inspection into our territory, and we will accept to cede to you our claims over Kashmir and the Sind region (east of the line formed by the Sutlej - southermost Indu rivers)

To: Russia
From: PRG

Why?... we though you were here to help us break free from the Pakistan's oppression...
We won't cede you half of our territory to you, that would kill us even before we were born as a nation.

To: China
From: Tibet

I think we like the Indian proposal... what does our Chinese friends think about it?

To: People's Repubblic of Gulastan
From: Pakistan

We recognize you as an independent, sovreign nation. Given our common heritage we hope for good relations between our countries

The Newspaper
October 2178

The War the never was
Was it NSWAF fault.. or was it India fault, anyway the two nations have declared war on each other, and in the 16 days of fighting the Indian Air Force managed to damage the city of Salt Lake City, but always according to the official fonts lost an aircraft (although the WAF authorities claim to have shot down many more planes)
The war was stopped, mostly thanks to the tempestive intervention of the Chinese Diplomacy

The world thanks China for their effort of bringing everlasting peace to the humanity.

Indian-Pakistan War to an end?
According to our reporter sent to the region a big exchange of diplomats between Islamabad and New Delhi have occured, the Pakistani authorities are positive that the war will end sooner than expected.
In the meanwhile the Pakistan government have officially recognized the independence of Gulastan.

Indian advance to a stall
The Indian advance into Pakistan have been halted mainly due to the fact that the Indian government had concentrated a lot of their war effort to the American front.
The front didn't move for all those three months, and little shot were fired from either side... as if the two armies had agreed to a cease fire in order to let diplomacy do its job.

Chinese Rocket reaches the Moon
After being stopped by God (or Allah, or Buddha, or the spirit of Lenin, -insert your favourite god/goddess here-) Because he simply forgot about it, the Chinese finally managed to reach the moon and plant a base on its soil.
Also good news come from the Brazilian expedition, which, with the help of some engineers of other nationalities (mostly from the AEU) managed to create a fully functional Brazilian base as well.

Great Success of the "Indian Fundraising"
The Indian government recently asked it's people to donate money (as little as 1 cent INR) to the government in order to make more fund available for social and educational projects.
The Indian managed to donate a total of 6,7 Billion INR

WAF Economy collapsing
With more and more people joining the Armed forces the WAF economy is unable to support such a big military expenditure, especially given that with more people joining the army, there is less people that work to support the economy.
The great propaganda campaign to improve and upgrade all fields of the military have backfired (and was made worse by the Indian embargo)... and now the WAF Economy seems to be in a very big crisis that may result on recession if not solved properly and in a brief time.

New Boston Empire frees the economy?
The recent moves of New Boston seems to be working towards a liberation of the economy, Economic regulations have been lifted in a smart way and the economy is now slowly gaining ground, thanks to foreign and domestic investment

Election in the NSWAF
The Fascist Party won the elections in landslide with a 56% of the votes
The other 44% was divided between the Federalist (23%), Democratic (15%) and Communist (6%)

Will update the first page tomorrow (now I go partying)

If anything was missed please tell me and I'll add it (in a pre-update or in the next one)
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Old October 24, 2003, 15:58   #145
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Old October 24, 2003, 22:44   #146
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To the New Boston Empire:
Our nation is named after the Indus river where we began.
But I cannot figure out why you name yourself after the American city of Boston?

To God (Telephatic):
What of the effects of us sharing production secrets with China?
And our spending $20MIL to attract corperations away from the Americas and into China?
Or the various intelligence agencies infiltrating each other?

To China:
Glory! We have raised much money, and you are deserving of some of it! Long live India and China!

To the World:
Ah look. The WAF, as predicted, is sliding into despotism. The very same despotism we have seen in one of the most evil regiemes in the history of humanity - Nazi Germany.
I encourage all nations of the world to ensure that the economy and military of Nazi America does not reach any potential threat level at all.

To Sri Lanka:
Hello and greetings from your Buddhist brothers in India! We would like to invite you to a peaceful annexation into our nation of India. Bangladesh has done it and now standards of living are improving rapidly...And it can be the same with you as well Of course if you decline, we shall understand.

To the WORLD, from the Indian Government:
We have now changed our foreign policy to a more friendly one.

To Nepal:
We would like to extend the same offer to you that we have given to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, whom did accept.

To ALL Asian Nations *including* Russia:
We would like to propose an alliance between all Asian states to ensure that each and every one of us is safe from any outside aggressors.

To Korea, Mongolia:
We have heard some talk in your nations about possibly reunification with China, and would like to know how thats going.
(God: So I lie. But i am trying to push for China to reunify, so....I'm suggesting it to them in my own way )

To China (Secret):
Our relations continue to soar, and I am beginning to ponder...A merge of our nations. Of course we would still govern each of our current territories, however...Our economy would be shared, as would our history and politics...And both you and I would become heads of State.
Just throwing an idea around...

ORDERS:
Give $500MIL IND to China
Spend $500 more MIL on attracting investment in China, especially from American-leaning corperations.
Begin Electricity and Water Education programs designed to steer people away from their usage.
*TOP SECRET, TRANSMITTED TO GOD*
Celebrations in India begin! Free alchoholic and non-alchoholic drinks for everyone in Delhi! Begin fireworks display, and celebrate the Asian peoples!
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Delhi Deli release of how much Indians like other nations. Colours on the left are least liked, on the right most liked. Black indicates feelings of total unity, with very little to no differences percieved in each culture and peoples.

(Note that large blocks of nations are simply put into a cube with a solid colour. And this is a 1999 map)
(Also note that this may not reflect government opinion. But PROBABLY does )
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The US in response to the enbargo enacted upon it by India has deside to increase trade with its North American nieghbors by 150% and with the AEU by 75% to copensate for the lost trade. Also the US is starting talks with the WAF to see if road interconnectivity can be restored to precivil war levels in an effort to help improve commerce between them.

In other news the US will be holding elections soon it is expect to one hum dinger of a election cycle. Also today NASA announced they the US would finally be putting a colony on the moon as they put it "We were there first so we should get a peice of it.", also another was quoted as saying many of those nations conolising the moon were nothing but "claim jumpers", it seems obvious that there is some hostility in NASA towards the nations already on the moon.

US to WAF:
Would you be willing to help us restore the road connections between our countries to precivil war levels?

US to India:
Its your choice to enbargo us, but you may reget it if we ever gain economic clout again and you start to wish to trade with us.

US to North American CountriesTop Secret)
We should join in a free trade pact.

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To the US (Secret):
We simply wished to remind you that India is very powerful friend or a very nasty enemy. We did not mean to do such economic damage.

ORDERS: Reduce embargo to most main US goods, however provide tax cuts to US minor goods.

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