February 20, 2001, 14:35
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POLL: MGE vs TOT
which is the best?
results below
[This message has been edited by MarkG (edited May 20, 2001).]
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February 20, 2001, 18:40
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made one of the first votes, I go fo rMGE
TOT has fancier graphics, but I needed a long time to get used to it, whereas CIV2 (MGE) convinces by its simplicity.
but then, many will say TOT is better because of better graphics.
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February 20, 2001, 18:58
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please dont vote if you only have one of them or dont know what tot or mge means!
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February 20, 2001, 19:14
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I'd have to go with MGE.
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February 20, 2001, 21:22
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King
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MGE all the way!
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February 22, 2001, 23:49
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Retired
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Hmmmm... since this is the Civ general forum, I would hope that more people post that they like MGE
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February 23, 2001, 03:01
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Emperor
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I voted for MGE. ToT was a disapointment.
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February 23, 2001, 05:50
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Prince
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Personally I like UCC/MGE, it more fun and everything fits.
But TOT just seems wronge some how, I've tried to play it a few times but I never could get into it. I even tried to write a scenario but abandoned it in the end, no support for scenarios at all.
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February 23, 2001, 10:46
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February 25, 2001, 22:36
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Chieftain
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MGE! I was thrilled with all its scenarios and tot was just too, different.
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March 18, 2001, 20:51
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Emperor
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yeah, exactly! TOT is so different... once you got used to the old-fashioned CIV2, you just don't want to play another game... CTP sucks, TOT is nice but different... the looks OF TOT are nicer actually, but I just don't feel comfortable with it.
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March 19, 2001, 15:08
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MarkG,
I have a slight problem here. I would like to change my vote. I originally voted for MGE over TOT because TOT lacked the bells and whistles of MGE.
Well, in Angelscreams thread (under CIVII Test of Time), Thoth informed me that Wonder Movies can be played in TOT if you use the MGE CD while playing TOT...and he's right! You can have the Wonder Movies in TOT!!! This changes everything. Because of this breakthough, I believe TOT is better than MGE - So I would like to change my vote from MGE to TOT (I can't do it myself, since I can only vote once and not change it ). Can you help me? Thanks.
[This message has been edited by wittlich (edited March 19, 2001).]
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March 22, 2001, 23:40
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MGE is better, TOT graphics are nice but MGE has grown on me way too much.
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March 27, 2001, 01:59
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Warlord
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i've ToT, MGE and Civ2+FW
1-Civ2+FW (city 3 pts)
2-MGE (multi+scenario)
3-ToT (more customize options.. 1 sound/unit)
If ToT=MGE+customize options, it would be the best (even with city 3 pts bug)
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March 28, 2001, 16:37
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Warlord
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ToT.
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April 11, 2001, 15:26
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Settler
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why would you vote for mge? tot has all mge has and more, better graphics etc
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April 15, 2001, 08:51
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King
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What is MGE?
What is TOT?
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April 15, 2001, 20:46
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King
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erm ok TOT then
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April 22, 2001, 09:00
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King
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MGE - TOT just alienated me straight away. It was slower, darker graphics (uglier), no wonder movies (although apparently you can get around that), and was generally just weird. I went back to Civ2 MGE very quickly. Oh, and you need the CD in the drive for it, which pisses me off after Civ2 and SMAC. (I also own the Australian version of Multiplayer Civ2, which is a half-arsed MGE, without the extra scenarios. This really pisses me off. They didn't release MGE here.
Since I've bought Civ2 2.42, Civ2 Multiplayer, and TOT (and SMAC, and CTP), I figure someone up there owes me. So I downloaded MGE from a warez site and coped my wonder movies onto the hard disk, and it works fine.
(and that's my rant.)
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April 23, 2001, 07:33
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MGE all the way.
ToT - you must be joking!!
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April 23, 2001, 11:24
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Warlord
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I think that it depends upon how much you've played Civ2 prior to seeing ToT. I'm new to Civ2, and I now have both MGE and ToT. Neither game has great graphics, but that's not what this franchise is about, is it? But, even though I agree that the ToT graphics are a bit dark, they do look a little better. And, the animations add a little to the enjoyment of the game. The city screen is cleaner (again, for those of us who weren't already used to the Civ2 city screen), and I think that's a plus. The only other things missing are the advisors (not a big deal), and the wonder movies (which I still get by putting my MGE CD in while playing ToT). The basic gameplay is the same--after all, they are the same game. So, overall, I much prefer to play ToT. But, it's still good to have MGE to be able to play all the scenarios available on the net.
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April 23, 2001, 20:44
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Warlord
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What the f**k?
WONDER MOVIES?
Am I the only one that turned off the damn things even before I saw all of them? I cannot see how that would make the slightest bit of difference. Also, CivI graphics don't even bug me, I don't see how that aspect matters one bit unless it is a 3d game. I will not vote though because I have never played TOT.
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May 6, 2001, 15:34
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Warlord
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Even though MGE is far easier to use (and doesn't have those annoying unit animations), the graphics are much cleaner and easier to play with, and there are actually scenario tools for the more repetitive tasks, ToT gave me two things which are absolutely essential for scenarios (which I have lately been using more than playing the actual game): events flags and multiple maps. So there.
I also hate Wonder movies! What is the big deal with Wonder movies!?
[This message has been edited by Mr. Oobir (edited May 06, 2001).]
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May 7, 2001, 00:15
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Warlord
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Oobir on 05-06-2001 03:34 PM
Even though MGE is far easier to use... What is the big deal with Wonder movies!?
[This message has been edited by Mr. Oobir (edited May 06, 2001).]
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How is MGE far easier? Gameplay between the two is the same. Are you referring to MGE being easier because you think it's easier to see? Other than that, I can't see how a differentiation like that can be made. And because of that, it just comes down to which games' appearance each of us like.
On the Wonder Movies, that seems to me to be a weak reason to go for one game over the other.
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May 8, 2001, 19:52
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Warlord
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quote:
Originally posted by rwprice on 05-07-2001 12:15 AM
How is MGE far easier? Gameplay between the two is the same. Are you referring to MGE being easier because you think it's easier to see? Other than that, I can't see how a differentiation like that can be made. And because of that, it just comes down to which games' appearance each of us like.
On the Wonder Movies, that seems to me to be a weak reason to go for one game over the other.
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I don't know what I was thinking with the "easier to use" statement, though it must've had some relevance in my mind when typing my post.
With the Wonders thing, I was merely agreeing with the previous post. That wasn't meant to be taken as a reason for supporting Test of Time.
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May 8, 2001, 23:44
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Warlord
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Oobir on 05-08-2001 07:52 PM
I don't know what I was thinking with the "easier to use" statement, though it must've had some relevance in my mind when typing my post.
With the Wonders thing, I was merely agreeing with the previous post. That wasn't meant to be taken as a reason for supporting Test of Time.
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Also to clarify, my mention of the Wonder movies was more for the many notes I've seen besides yours. Over and over people mention the lack of wonder movies as the reason not get ToT. That may have been worth something when you were faced with paying $40, but not now when you can pick it up for $10! Besides, how many times can a person watch them?
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May 14, 2001, 01:52
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King
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TOT outclasses MTG and Orignal Civ2 in every aspect. The TOT Ai is competitive and 3 times better than the Civ2 one. The graphcis are better and the units are better.
But I see that we may need a recount for this poll ..... it is a very very close one
[This message has been edited by Saddam (edited May 14, 2001).]
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May 14, 2001, 23:16
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Warlord
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ToT
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May 20, 2001, 10:05
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