October 12, 2003, 21:12
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Anyone else pissed at the new movie "The Alamo"?
It is portraying the Americans as the "brave innocent victims fighting against the evil mexicans!".
Which as anyone with a historical backround knows is utter bs....
Texans were illegally crossing the border in large numbers and breaking Mexican law(i.e. slave laws amoung others).
When these aggresive settlers who are telling Mexico to F off are slaughtered wholesale, how are they brave, innocent victims :?
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October 12, 2003, 21:13
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One question:
Is the movie in English or Spanish?
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October 12, 2003, 21:15
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No. It looks like it might be entertaining. I don't go to movies for history lessons.
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October 12, 2003, 21:16
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
One question:
Is the movie in English or Spanish?
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English, and total ######## from the promo I saw for it.
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October 12, 2003, 21:19
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I think it looks awesome, and will certainly be seeing it 
Historical movies always warp the truth anyway...
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October 12, 2003, 21:19
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October 12, 2003, 21:21
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well it's okay with that submarine movie. It's okay to demonize white people.
But this film is not politically correct. It should not be showing the mexicans in a negative light.
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October 12, 2003, 21:23
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Quite "pissy" today, aren't we... 
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October 12, 2003, 21:24
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Originally posted by Vesayen
English,
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Well then did you expect anything less than blatant revisionist history?! 
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October 12, 2003, 21:24
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Originally posted by Dissident
well it's okay with that submarine movie. It's okay to demonize white people.
But this film is not politically correct. It should not be showing the mexicans in a negative light.
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It has nothing to do with mexicans in a negative light.... in this case whitey WAS the bad guy lol!
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October 12, 2003, 21:24
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Originally posted by centrifuge
Historical movies always warp the truth anyway...
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For a film that tries to break this mold, you might enjoy the new movie about Martin Luther which is far more accurate than not (allowing for the limitations of the medium, that is).
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October 12, 2003, 21:25
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yes but by showing the whiteys as the good guys, well you know what that leaves the mexicans as...
just for that, I'm going to piss on the alamo.
And no John Wayne in this movie 
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October 12, 2003, 22:03
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Uh, this looks like another movie trying to compensate for the fact that US doesn't have an interesting history. I'll pass.
The trailer was only slightly less ponderous and boring than the Seabiscuit trailer. Ugh.
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October 12, 2003, 22:12
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Does the movie make any mention that one reason for the conflict, was that some white settlers who were slave owners, were violating Mexico's abolishment of slavery??
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October 12, 2003, 23:42
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From the preview no it dosent, it shows the poor innocent texans being killed by the evil dirty brown mexicans..... complete #$(@$*%@.
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October 12, 2003, 23:45
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Interesting..do the producers expect this flick to do well in the overseas markets?
Oh, and I have not seen the previous, and I will see this film about the same time I see Pearl Harbor.......
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October 12, 2003, 23:49
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I wonder how many versions of "The Alamo" have been made since the dawn of cinema? Is it possibly the most re-made picture in motion picture history?
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October 12, 2003, 23:52
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And they're all Anglophilic in nature . . .
surprises, surprises.
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October 12, 2003, 23:53
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I am sure Frankenstein and dracula are well ahead. Now, if you mean just historical pics, maybe Custer gives it a run for it's money, and that is not even going into non-American film industries. Maybe other states really like to beath their own dead horses.
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October 12, 2003, 23:54
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Well, Mexico has a film industry. Why don't they make their own version?
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October 12, 2003, 23:56
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How the hell should I know why they haven't produced their own version?
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October 12, 2003, 23:58
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I hope they have the part where Jim Bowie gets carried accross the volunteer line on his bed.
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October 12, 2003, 23:58
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October 13, 2003, 00:01
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Texans were illegally crossing the border in large numbers
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Not true, actually. Mexicans wanted Americans to come into Texas and were inviting them in. Of course the American settlers violated the slave laws.
It seems 'The Alamo' is just about that one battle, with little exposition. However, the TRAILER says it is a true story about what "TWO sides fought for what they believed... protected what they loved... and gave the world a legend".
Looks sweet though .
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October 13, 2003, 00:03
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Wait...Mexicans aren't evil?
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October 13, 2003, 00:03
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Well, Mexico has a film industry. Why don't they make their own version?
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Whom would they cast as a bunch of gringos in the Alamo? It probably is more expensive for them to get enough whites than it is for an American unit to get enough Chicanos. Plus American crews get to examine the actual Aamo withou that whole immigration problem.
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October 13, 2003, 00:04
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Mexico welcomed white settlers initially -- until white slaveowners decided to come in large numbers, and ignore Mexico's abolishment of slavery.
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October 13, 2003, 00:06
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Who cares about accuracy, we greased all your gringo Tejas asses anyway. 
The Alamo was really about having more balls than brains and waiting 24 hours too long.
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October 13, 2003, 00:07
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It is important to realize that the slavery issue was only one. Had the democratic gov. of mexico lasted, then the Texans woud have had a much harder time justifying their actions, specially since a fair number of neighboring Mexicans did join them: the collapse of the democratic gov, and Santa Ana's rise gave the Texans a great motivator for their revolt.
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October 13, 2003, 00:07
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Mexico welcomed white settlers initially -- until white slaveowners decided to come in large numbers, and ignore Mexico's abolishment of slavery.
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The Mexicans never shut off the spigot... and the fighters at the Alamo were mostly all original settlers.
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