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October 16, 2003, 20:26
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In any case, I think the president should be impeached for such a thing.
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Yes he should have been, and so should George Bush I. But it was too soon after Watergate and the Dem's had no spine to take on a popular President. Besides, he had plausible deniablity, as everyone took the blame on themselves to cover for the Pres and Veep.
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October 16, 2003, 20:36
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They did? How noble of them.  
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October 16, 2003, 21:02
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They did? How noble of them.
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The sad thing is a lot of people seemed to thnik so. Ollie North is quite the hero in some parts of this country. 
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October 16, 2003, 21:28
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wasn't it peachy that just as the US begun to declare a war on drugs, the US was ilegally funding a geroup with huge ties to drug dealers and helped create a trafficing system in Central America?
I actually voted about the same. Pinochet was much bloodier, but he knew when to leave. So its short and brutal, or long and weakening. It's one's choice, really.
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October 16, 2003, 21:33
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17 years is short?
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October 16, 2003, 21:39
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Compared to 40? Yes.
17 years for a dictatorship is pretty average.
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October 16, 2003, 21:42
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Add to this the fact that pinochet followed some of Machiavelli's advice: if you are going to have a purge, do it soon. Pinochets reing of terror time was soon after taking pwer and through the mid-late 70's. BY the 1980's there was no longer a need, and the bloodlettting dimished significantly.
And all of this comes from a guy who knows as a family friend someone who was a member of Chile's communist party politburo when Allende as president.
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October 16, 2003, 22:05
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Castro has a much bigger waistline than Pinochet.
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October 16, 2003, 22:18
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Have you seen them side to side?
On the other hand, the chilean military used to dress like Nazi's, literally.
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October 17, 2003, 03:12
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Add to this the fact that pinochet followed some of Machiavelli's advice: if you are going to have a purge, do it soon. Pinochets reing of terror time was soon after taking pwer and through the mid-late 70's. BY the 1980's there was no longer a need, and the bloodlettting dimished significantly.
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While the killings may have reduced significantly, there was still no shortage of political imprisonment and state brutality. The initial repression was conducted so clinically that it was "only" necessary to use just savage police beatings later on.
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October 17, 2003, 04:04
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On the other hand, the chilean military used to dress like Nazi's, literally.
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There is a reason Thatcher is such friends with Pinochet
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