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Old October 17, 2003, 22:11   #1
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Kody says:
it appears we're going to be friendly with the cycon
Kody says:
then when the time is right, let them find out that we're permi-pacted with the drones.
Kody says:
So we're going to hold back on them to some degree.
Kody says:
recent turn said the uni is withdrawing
Kody says:
and will accept our treaty
Rokossovky says:
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Rokossovky says:
hellon chairman
Rokossovky says:
we are just discussing long term impacts of cycon relations
Voltaire says:
Hello again
Rokossovky says:
I have concerns about when we decide to invade the uni
Rokossovky says:
what will the cycon do
Rokossovky says:
also, on that front, what we are going to do with the pirates when we do that
Rokossovky says:
you two being the foreign policy guys...
Rokossovky says:
I was wondering if you could answer my questions?
Kody says:
well once we take out the university we'll be in the position that we're too powerful to stop
Rokossovky says:
alright
Kody says:
the cycon can either petition to the drones to be let into a joint victory
Kody says:
which I think the hive might accept
Rokossovky says:
but we have the problem that the pirates and the cycon may take offense to that, and launch an attack on us before we are done
Voltaire says:
Do we want to go for conquest or simply destroying the University?
Kody says:
personally I would settle for destroying the university
Rokossovky says:
take them out. it's the only way
Voltaire says:
that's what i had in mind
Voltaire says:
occupation would be too costly
Rokossovky says:
yes
Kody says:
agreed
Rokossovky says:
but still
Rokossovky says:
the pirates
Rokossovky says:
and the cycon
Kody says:
aren't a match for the drones and the hive
Rokossovky says:
we have the problem that we could end up being invaded whilst our forces are deployed oversees
Rokossovky says:
but if our army is away?
Kody says:
We've kept the pirates from becoming reliant on one of the tech factions with our trading.
Kody says:
The Cycon are rooting for us as an ally
Rokossovky says:
ok
Kody says:
the university have built all the SPs they've needed
Rokossovky says:
so my question is just are you certain that we have the cycon on our side for a university invasion?
Kody says:
nope
Rokossovky says:
then we have a serious problem
Kody says:
but our attack will be too fast for them to do anything
Rokossovky says:
except attack us
Kody says:
that's what buster was trying to say
Rokossovky says:
buster overestimates his power
Kody says:
well that would be after we've take out the university
Rokossovky says:
his attack is standard and can easily be defeated given a bit of common sense
Rokossovky says:
which, I am sure, dean archaic has
Kody says:
his attack relies on surprise
Rokossovky says:
his attack goes completely dead if the uni decides to build aerospace complexes or construct even a small airforce
Kody says:
well you don't think 30 choppers is enough?
Rokossovky says:
not to mention if they decide to build AAA units
Rokossovky says:
no, I am saying 30 choppers is enough
Rokossovky says:
we just need to deploy them better
Rokossovky says:
and not rely on a german WWI tactic to win
Kody says:
AAA requires advanced military algorithms
Kody says:
you're forgetting we'll probably have a tech advantage
Kody says:
and we'll also have a production advantage
Rokossovky says:
as long as we keep the cycon and the uni apart
Kody says:
if the university and the cycon and the pirates had the same tech the same production
Kody says:
then we would find it difficult
Kody says:
the reason why buster is so confident is because the others are lagging economically
Rokossovky says:
listen, all I am saying is that to be prudent it would be wise to ensure we won't be fighting a three front war
Kody says:
and technologically
Kody says:
and that's why we're going to keep being friendly with the cycon
Rokossovky says:
even if it looks like we could defeat the uni and have the troops back by christmas to defend against 2 angry factions, it would not be wise to count on a quick victory
Rokossovky says:
there needs to be some type of safeguards
Rokossovky says:
to ensure that they are either onside, or taken out
Kody says:
I think there will be
Rokossovky says:
alright
Kody says:
personally once the university is out of the game
Kody says:
I think that we'll have no problem
Kody says:
we'll be more advanced military wise
Kody says:
and buster will be the tech leader for the rest of the game
Kody says:
also my mircomanagement means we'll keep an industry and maybe even economical advantage
Rokossovky says:
I don't doubt it
Kody says:
the university was our only real problem because of their tech rate
Rokossovky says:
I agree, which is why they need to be made gone
Rokossovky says:
alright, so can you tell me how you plan to keep the cycon and PEACE placated?
Rokossovky says:
just so i can understand it
Kody says:
we won't need to
Kody says:
a chop and drop war doesn't really take that long
Rokossovky says:
i agree, if things go to plan
Rokossovky says:
my concern is that if something doesn't go according to plan, what then?
Kody says:
then we enlist the cycon
Rokossovky says:
ok
Rokossovky says:
so you are saying we should try and get the cycon onside for an invasion of the university?
Kody says:
only if our first attempt is a failure
Rokossovky says:
the problem is that if our first attempt is a failure then those three could decide they don't like us
Rokossovky says:
that needs to be in place before we go
Kody says:
and what are you suggesting?
Kody says:
I mean really what can we do
Rokossovky says:
I am suggesting it might be wise to try and enlist the cycon into our invasion plans
Rokossovky says:
that way we don't have to worry about them
Rokossovky says:
and if PEACE decides they don't like it they are looking at 3 vs 1
Kody says:
the peace and the cycon aren't getting on very well
Rokossovky says:
in terms of economic power?
Kody says:
in terms of a grudge
Rokossovky says:
ah
Kody says:
I found out that cycon stole the MCC
Rokossovky says:
so then might it not be a good idea to take out PEACE first with Cycon help, THEN go after the uni?
Rokossovky says:
that way there is only the Cycon and Uni as potential threats rather than a triple entente?
Kody says:
no
Kody says:
university is first
Kody says:
because the university gets really powerful when it starts booming
Kody says:
In late game
Kody says:
pirates are scary, but we're talking about after air power
Kody says:
and they don't have the MCC
Kody says:
In fact the cycon will probably be the key naval power
Kody says:
in 20 years time
Rokossovky says:
Alright then
Rokossovky says:
But shouldn't the fact that they will be the key naval power mean we should be doubling our efforts to ensure they won't attack us?
Kody says:
yeah
Kody says:
so that's why we're pacting with them
Rokossovky says:
ok
Rokossovky says:
so we are going to try and get them onside for the uni attack then?
Rokossovky says:
cause if we do that
Rokossovky says:
even if PEACE doesn't like the invasion they really are powerless to do anything about it
Kody says:
we'll be wondering why the game is so easy
Rokossovky says:
yea
Rokossovky says:
well that is the point
Rokossovky says:
I don't have my sun tzu on me but one of my favorite quotes goes "Any battle which people remark "it took skill" is infact the battle of a fool"
Kody says:
lets first infiltrate the university
Kody says:
I'm worried about losing the drones
Kody says:
they don't want a 3 way victory
Rokossovky says:
oh we won't
Kody says:
at the moment they haven't pushed back, but I can see that they will if we try and push the subject
Rokossovky says:
once we have the uni in the bag
Rokossovky says:
we turn and take out the cycon
Rokossovky says:
that is what the people have decreed they want to happen
Kody says:
we've got the other factions so divided that buster was commenting that there will be no skill involved
Rokossovky says:
perfect
Rokossovky says:
so if we bring the cycon to bear against the only way they could survive, we are in fact using them to ensure their own downfall
Kody says:
well you see the other factions are already divided
Rokossovky says:
but in the face of a threat they could easly come together
Rokossovky says:
balance of power politics are standard in underdeveloped diplomatic situations
Kody says:
yeah but by that time it would be too late
Rokossovky says:
if things go according to plan
Rokossovky says:
would it really be that much effort to cover our asses?
Kody says:
lets agree to wait on this subject
Kody says:
until we have infiltration
Rokossovky says:
ok, i can do that
Kody says:
in the mean time we're friendly with the cycon
Rokossovky says:
agreed
Kody says:
as you can see I'm already taking those steps
Rokossovky says:
yes, and i am pleased with it
Kody says:
even though I strongly dislike the idea of betraying them
Rokossovky says:
good job
Rokossovky says:
I can understand your relunctance
Rokossovky says:
but some times that is a necessary part of being a diplomat
Rokossovky says:
but ok
Rokossovky says:
we wait until infiltration
Rokossovky says:
and then we will evaluate our position
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Old October 17, 2003, 23:24   #2
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arrrrrggggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! nooooooo!!! need pretty MSN formt!
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Old October 17, 2003, 23:34   #3
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fixed the format
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Old October 18, 2003, 00:09   #4
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To tell the truth I feel this is very bad to the eyes. I don't think I'm going to try read this.
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Old October 18, 2003, 05:53   #5
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Hmm I have to say the sizes are too similar. I could use 2 and 6 but that would look really weird even then it would be straining for a long conversation. Anyway I was hoping others would attempt to help add in formatting to allow instant identification. For the sake of my sanity and yours please, please do add colour.
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Old October 18, 2003, 10:55   #6
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Differentiating thru colors was OK - it's just that the colors show differently depending on what 'Poly display style one uses.

The only problem I've had has been with the 15 word personal labels, where you get a 2 line identifier saying "hello"

I know it's cute, but why not stick with "Voltaire" says and "Vev says", etc

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It looks like the Marshal is talking normal, while Kody is whispering and the Chairman is Yelling.
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