Interesting Idea

Voltaire · October 20, 2003, 01:36

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Kody says:
it's just an idea
Kody says:
do you think people would go for that?
Nukes for EVERYONE! says:
Hmm
Nukes for EVERYONE! says:
I think so
Voltaire says:
it will prove to be interesting if it can be setup
Kody says:
sell it as something to do while we're between turns of the real game
Kody says:
and make a stricter time limit on the new one
Kody says:
I thought it would be good for the hive
Voltaire says:
it might be worth a shot
Voltaire says:
but are we not spreading ourselves too thin?
Voltaire says:
three games...
Kody says:
because jamski and rokossovky are always itching to play the turn
Voltaire says:
granted not all are involved in the ACPSG
Kody says:
well sell as a team game, but more informal
Kody says:
like sort of like the arcade in the bar
Kody says:
and each team is having a friendly competition
Kody says:
so we're not spending heaps of time debating every decision
Kody says:
and planning lots of moves
Kody says:
just oh that ACDGarcade is up
Kody says:
so they open it up move the units and stuff around then save and pass it on
Voltaire says:
ah
Voltaire says:
i see
Voltaire says:
that could work
Kody says:
just something to do when people get frustrated over the slow turnage
Kody says:
and since it's informal
Kody says:
the newer members are play the turns
Kody says:
and the better members can throw pointers
Kody says:
because currently we're too afraid of losing to let a brand new member play a turn
Voltaire says:
yes i see your point
Voltaire says:
we should bring it up with googlie
Voltaire says:
ask him to propose the idea
Kody says:
so we should call it the Speed game
Voltaire says:
it will carry more weight if it comes form him
Kody says:
maybe give bonus points for who can play the fastest
Voltaire says:
lol, that would be interesting
Voltaire says:
and it would provide for some reather interesting games
Kody says:
yeah
Kody says:
because whoever is online
Kody says:
and part of a team can play
Voltaire says:
brilliant
Kody says:
so all those inactive members can do something
Voltaire says:
and furthermore it would provide some of our more afluent members another place to SPAM
Kody says:
and it gives something for new players to do
Voltaire says:
it can replace the rec room threads
Voltaire says:
it can essentialy be an entire forum for relaxation
Voltaire says:
a sort of ACDG lounge
Kody says:
I guess
Voltaire says:
is googlie online?
Kody says:
well we can use the current ACDG resources
Kody says:
nope
Kody says:
just PM him
Voltaire says:
hmm, he lives in vancouver if i recall correctly
Voltaire says:
so he's 1 hour behind me
Kody says:
the main idea is everyone is allowed to play their team's game whenever they like
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
i'll PM him
Kody says:
and the first person to play it
Kody says:
or online and sees it
Voltaire says:
I'll also post this conversation into the hive forums to get some feedback
Kody says:
posts his/her team's turn
Voltaire says:
when we're done of course
Kody says:
it would stop some of the eliteish
Kody says:
eliteism
Voltaire says:
lol
Kody says:
I mean alot of our current decisions are just too important for someone that doesn't have time to trawl through all our posts
Kody says:
and explaning everything takes so much time
Kody says:
so new members feel they can't contribute
Kody says:
but with this thing
Kody says:
everyone can contribute, and the idea is to get fast turnage, also to help newer players learn
Kody says:
technically it will be possible to get a few turns done in a day
Kody says:
because most teams will have members on at different hours
Kody says:
and usually there's at least one person around 80% of the time
Kody says:
Speed team PBEM
Voltaire says:
you in our case
Voltaire says:
oh sorry
Voltaire says:
misunderstood
Kody says:
well I would perfer everyone others to do it
Kody says:
but speed PBEM won't have the long delays
Voltaire says:
yes
Voltaire says:
in fact
Voltaire says:
i would expect that one turn could be done a day
Voltaire says:
if not more
Voltaire says:
lol
Kody says:
yup
Voltaire says:
it might be over long before this one
Kody says:
yeah
Kody says:
and the main rule is anyone in your team is allowed to play
Kody says:
and you can't complain if they make a mistake
Voltaire says:
ah
Voltaire says:
it would be rather interesting
Kody says:
it's meant to be fun
Kody says:
and fast
Voltaire says:
which is the main point
Kody says:
and the winner is the one with the fastest turnage
Kody says:
that is either still around when someone wins
Kody says:
normally
Kody says:
or when the game comes down to 3 factions
Kody says:
the fastest of those last three factions wins
Kody says:
so it encourges fast play
Kody says:
actually hrmm
Voltaire says:
i just realised something
Kody says:
yeah?
Voltaire says:
pretty soon Planet is going to become a multipolar world
Voltaire says:
sort of like Earth during the Cold War
Kody says:
hehehe
Voltaire says:
except
Voltaire says:
the two superpowers will be cooperating
Kody says:
lol
Voltaire says:
and they're both communist
Kody says:
nah the drones aren't communist are they?
Kody says:
not sure of definition
Voltaire says:
the drones? more so then we're suppose to be
Voltaire says:
we're totalitarian
Voltaire says:
they're the supposed communist
Kody says:
the drones are running demo
Voltaire says:
exactly
Voltaire says:
that's what communism is all about, in theory
Voltaire says:
demo/planned
Voltaire says:
would be real communism
Kody says:
oh
Voltaire says:
police state/planned is what most of the worlds communist states have been

Googlie · October 20, 2003, 11:23

OK - the ACDG "speed game"

Some questions pre set-up

1. Should it be smac only, to alow for everyone to get a chance to play the turn

2. Presumably the factions would all be teamed from the current teams - and play the current faction (within smac limitations) where possible (eg, Hive will play Hive, Uni play Uni, Pirates play Gaians, Drones play Morgan and Cycon play as the PKs)

3. CMN advanced start (maybe 4 cp's, 3 scouts, a unity foil) to give something to do in those early turns

4. Coop victory disabled

5. Any other specific rules - see:

for some of the things that could be done in a scenario start - eg no tech trading, no Council, etc etc.

6. AI or no AI (and if so, how strong - the Spartans and Believers could be made into a really strong aggressive combination)

G.

Kody · October 20, 2003, 19:03

1. Should it be smac only, to alow for everyone to get a chance to play the turn

Sounds like an idea, if getting SMAX is big issue for some people, then smac would be better.

2. Presumably the factions would all be teamed from the current teams - and play the current faction (within smac limitations) where possible (eg, Hive will play Hive, Uni play Uni, Pirates play Gaians, Drones play Morgan and Cycon play as the PKs)

Let each team decide. But if two teams want the same faction, preference is given to the team that is already playing that faction.

3. CMN advanced start (maybe 4 cp's, 3 scouts, a unity foil) to give something to do in those early turns

I don't see any disagreement

4. Coop victory disabled

Heh, well that's probably a good idea otherwise alliances in the real ACDG will spread over into the speed game.

5. Any other specific rules - see:

No planetary council - because planetary councils slow things down.

6. AI or no AI (and if so, how strong - the Spartans and Believers could be made into a really strong aggressive combination)

Strong AI would be nice. Not so strong that they plaster the humans. Remmeber that if you turn cooperative victory off humans won't be teaming up against the AI.

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I think the main issue is that it's made clear that the first person that sees the turn and is able should play it. Also if there's any adjustments that you can do that will reduce the time it takes to play the turns then it would be great if you can do it.

Maybe we should have a rule against email communication between humans. That will stop the slow down of diplomancy I think.

Googlie · October 20, 2003, 21:05

The stage is set (see the rec Commons) - am working on the map and set-up right now

(I assigned factions - that'll speed things up)

G.

Vev · October 20, 2003, 21:54

Can we also sign a form agreeing that we are no longer honour bound in this game and that is in no way a reflection of our usual playing style?

Jamski · October 22, 2003, 05:00

Evil Vev. That MEANS you want to backstab people

-Jam