I'm creating a language! - Page 2

Gangerolf · October 24, 2003, 14:20

I've created a language too!
here's a sample:

Kom deg ut og få litt frisk luft før du blir innlagt. Bare kødder, stå på du!

Q Classic · October 24, 2003, 14:35

How's this for a language?

**** you ********

means: "hello."

civman2000 · October 24, 2003, 16:53

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You do know you can only use your upload space for civ-related stuff, don't you?

Ooops...moved to geocities (link changed in first post)

Al'Kimiya · October 24, 2003, 17:09

I feel for you, I do. I too know the hardships of coming out of the conlang closet.

Provost Harrison · October 24, 2003, 17:18

Will you also have knights that go 'ni'?

I have a language I have created. It's called sdrawkcab...very easy to learn

civman2000 · October 24, 2003, 17:42

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Will you also have knights that go 'ni'?

I have a language I have created. It's called sdrawkcab...very easy to learn

nOfi.

Translation of your post:
FAbenil-atAbin ogorOfi nitAnelo tAkinade "ni"-de?

FAban lanagAlo mAkanede. NE Ide bin sadarahukakabAlo...lanAro Ilo isIbin ferinAfi.

Earlier posts updated with vocab and passive voice (is)

Provost Harrison · October 24, 2003, 17:50

Thanks...next time I am in Inagalasia I'll remember that

st_swithin · October 24, 2003, 17:59

I'm gonna make a pilgrimage to the motherland of Caucasia and learn the whiteman's native tongue.

Stefu · October 24, 2003, 18:01

I suggest for every word in your language to be "snausages".

Snausages snausages snausages, snausages snausages snausage snausages. Snausages.

civman2000 · October 24, 2003, 18:24

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Thanks...next time I am in Inagalasia I'll remember that

Translation: HapIban Uka (thanks, lit. "I am happy because of you")...renenAbanil satUlo bafe inagalasIni.

LDiCesare · October 24, 2003, 19:14

Hi fellow conlanger!
I wonder how you would say things like "who/which". Your relatives are only of type "that". There are differences between the various relatives. It's mostly direct/indirect object or subject, but in your case, I miss the subject / direct obejct part:
The man who talks (subject)
The man that I talk about (indirect object)
The man that I see (direct object - difference direct / indirect doesn't show well in English - in French que/dont).
Your grammar remains very English. You are just changing the way verbs are treated and the order of the words. Whatare the tenses, for instance? It looks like you have present and past.

If you really want to make a different grammar, check conlangs like all-noun, or lojban. These have quite funny grammars. Mine includes things like no pronoun, relative pronoun usually translated as 'parenthesis' (subject) or a dedicated verb (object), 4 pasts, 4 futures, 2 present tenses. It really requires thinking in a different way to speak in such a tongue, also because there are intentional omissions in the vocabulary (some concepts don't exist in that language). Just ideas.

Beware also that you say all syllabas are CV, but your language name starts with a vowel, so that is not true...

Xapina Matanaka · October 24, 2003, 20:30

We'd love to have all of you share your languages on our conlang board, the Zompist phpBB. The more the merrier!

civman2000 · October 24, 2003, 21:36

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Hi fellow conlanger!
I wonder how you would say things like "who/which". Your relatives are only of type "that". There are differences between the various relatives. It's mostly direct/indirect object or subject, but in your case, I miss the subject / direct obejct part:
The man who talks (subject)
The man that I talk about (indirect object)
The man that I see (direct object - difference direct / indirect doesn't show well in English - in French que/dont).

At first I considered making separate ones but decided to keep them all the same. Also, I may be confused but AFAIK all English relatives are the same in regard to their ability to replace different parts of teh sentence...maybe there's some difference between that and which, but I think that may be just prescribed.

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Your grammar remains very English. You are just changing the way verbs are treated and the order of the words. Whatare the tenses, for instance? It looks like you have present and past.

True, much of the basic things are the same. The tenses are present (unmarked), past (ed), and future (il). All three can also be in perfect or progressive forms. In this respect the language is very much like English.

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If you really want to make a different grammar, check conlangs like all-noun, or lojban. These have quite funny grammars. Mine includes things like no pronoun, relative pronoun usually translated as 'parenthesis' (subject) or a dedicated verb (object), 4 pasts, 4 futures, 2 present tenses. It really requires thinking in a different way to speak in such a tongue, also because there are intentional omissions in the vocabulary (some concepts don't exist in that language). Just ideas.

I intended for this language to at least be somewhat realistic as a real language, though I'm pretty sure having postpositions and yet having modifiers follow heads is very contradictory syntactically. A language of all nouns is, simply, inhuman. Some of your other ideas though do sound nice.

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Beware also that you say all syllabas are CV, but your language name starts with a vowel, so that is not true...

Well, technically that's true, but in every linguistic description I've seen it's assumed that the given syllable structure is the most complex that is allowed and that all simpler structures are also present.

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We'd love to have all of you share your languages on our conlang board, the Zompist phpBB. The more the merrier!

Registering right now, I've been interested in this sort of thing ever since I took a linguistics class over the summer!

Cor · October 24, 2003, 23:17

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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
My reccomendation: Go outside more. Get a life.

You know what's funny about that get a life stuff? When people spend their lives telling others to get a life for doing something that interests them and actually uses their intellect.

headhunter · October 25, 2003, 02:27

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Originally posted by Mercator
Maybe you should invest your time in trying to learn one of the many languages of the world that is going extinct as we speak.

Dumbass. Maybe he can't get to anywhere where he could do that? Did that thought ever cross your mind, you ignorarius!

We just like creating our own languages, if you think that's stupid, then just leave us alone.

:leaves:

LDiCesare · October 25, 2003, 03:51

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though I'm pretty sure having postpositions and yet having modifiers follow heads is very contradictory syntactically.

Actually, there are real languages with many postpositions, including some which use lots of consonants as affixes( I can't remember if it's Hungarian) and people still seem able to talk the language.

headhunter · October 25, 2003, 04:15

Yes, it's Hungarian. Also Finnish, Saami, and most other Uralic languages. The Altaic family is also fairly heavy into that area.

And, postpositions and head-modifier order are very common. They tend to agree with each other.

civman2000 · October 25, 2003, 09:44

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Dumbass. Maybe he can't get to anywhere where he could do that? Did that thought ever cross your mind, you ignorarius!

We just like creating our own languages, if you think that's stupid, then just leave us alone.

:leaves:

Thank you for defending me, but you could've done so more civilly

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Actually, there are real languages with many postpositions, including some which use lots of consonants as affixes( I can't remember if it's Hungarian) and people still seem able to talk the language.

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Yes, it's Hungarian. Also Finnish, Saami, and most other Uralic languages. The Altaic family is also fairly heavy into that area.

And, postpositions and head-modifier order are very common. They tend to agree with each other.

I know they exist and I know it does fit some with head-modifier, but constructions like N1-PostP1 N2-PostP2 that would be translated into english as PostP1 N1 PostP2 N2 seem very awkward because PostP1 seems to intervene in the middle of the positional relationship of N1 and N2-PostP2 (as in "pigA dogAde Ade", "my dog's pig", or "pig dog-of I-of", the first "of" really sounds awkwardly placed...). Also, the only postpositional language I know any of (Japanese) is a 99% head-last language.

ICBM · December 8, 2003, 19:06

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Originally posted by Stefu
I suggest for every word in your language to be "snausages".

Snausages snausages snausages, snausages snausages snausage snausages. Snausages.

Pikachu pika pika chu chu. Pikachu!

Sava · December 8, 2003, 19:10

can "Sava" be the word for extremely sexually potent man?

Sarxis · December 8, 2003, 20:45

If its not used in a grand epic about Elves, Dwarves, Wizards and Hobbits, then its not a real language.

DaShi · December 9, 2003, 07:35

I'm creating my own Chinese dialect. It's easy. Just be stubbornly persistant with your mistakes.

Bosh · December 9, 2003, 07:39

To make things even more fun you can add prefixes or suffixes to denote comparative status/age/whatever of the adresser and the adresse.

Stefu · December 9, 2003, 08:01

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Pikachu pika pika chu chu. Pikachu!

SNAUSAGES! SNAUSAGES SNAUSAGES SNAUSAGES SNAUSAGES SNAUSAGES!

DaShi · December 9, 2003, 08:16

Bulbasaur rules!

mindseye · December 9, 2003, 08:41

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Originally posted by Stefu

SNAUSAGES! SNAUSAGES SNAUSAGES SNAUSAGES SNAUSAGES SNAUSAGES!

Elok · December 9, 2003, 12:12

I tried something like this a few years back. Wound up with an extremely compact language; words were constructed out of subject, verb, objects, and basically every other part of a sentence lumped together in one ball of verbal intent. Kanyitbarmeginmelantroshal. Or something like that. I gave it up when I realized that nobody would ever speak it and it was daft. But it's a neat exercise in applied linguistics, and there are worse ways to kill time. Dungeons and Dragons comes to mind...good luck.

Bugs ****ing Bunny · December 9, 2003, 13:23

Who bumped this toss?

Bereta_Eder · December 9, 2003, 13:36

A linguist?

Adagio · December 9, 2003, 13:52

Creating a new language?

I have had my own language for a very long time... just ask my friends

My roommate's learning my language also, but he hates it... he always use my language as a mistake (or so he says

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