October 26, 2003, 15:22
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Should have sent them a copy with your leaderheads. That'd given it at least one more star.
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October 26, 2003, 20:28
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Originally posted by JimMac
Actually,- I think I would prefer a 'Breakaway' (or even an Atari) chat, considering their involvement.
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Merepatra of Breakaway and Jeff from Atari were at the chat along with Firaxis.
I think a few other people showed up too.
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October 26, 2003, 20:36
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Originally posted by Louis XXIV
Merepatra of Breakaway and Jeff from Atari were at the chat along with Firaxis.
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* Vovan looks around for an announcement of this past chat, puzzled *
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October 26, 2003, 23:16
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October 27, 2003, 00:12
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October 29, 2003, 05:51
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can someone explain me what "gone gold" actually means?
i know that the civ3 gold version includes PTW and all the newest pathces, but what's the big deal?
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October 29, 2003, 05:56
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"gone gold" refers to the point that a game(any game) is finalized and ready to be sent for "print"
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October 29, 2003, 06:00
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ah... so it has nothing to do with the "gold" version which some games sometimes have
thanks
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October 29, 2003, 06:23
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I think the term started because the master CDs which are sent off to duplication used to be gold in color.
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October 29, 2003, 07:53
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They really should do them in watercolour, shouldn't they.
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Aren't there silver and platinums too?
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October 30, 2003, 16:53
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40%
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Originally posted by Louis XXIV
What 40% mark?
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Yeah, "40%" sounds scary, doesn't it? In actuality, it was "2 out of 5 stars," and the magazine "reviewed" 201 games, many of which haven't come out yet. But, it's no secret that every reviewer is entitled to his or her own opinion. Also keep in mind that the lead time for most U.S.-based print publications is at least 2 months. For instance, PC Gamer's very positive preview of Civ Conquests just appeared, but we visited with them over the summer.
We are just sending out copies of the final game to editors, so you'll be seeing a few online reviews shortly, and print reviews to follow perhaps in some January and February issues.
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October 30, 2003, 17:12
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Game reviews are like movie reviews. you need to know they reviewer. If they have similar likes as you, then you may take heed. Even that does not work 100%. I have a friend for more than 35 years and we have very similar taste, but he hated CivII, so what can you say?
Any game that I really have an interest in such as C3C, Mooanything or Warlords or Homm, I am going to get it reguardless of anyones comments. Ok, I got burnt on Moo3 and midly singed on Homm4. I still have to do it.
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October 30, 2003, 17:13
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industry terminology
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Originally posted by WarpStorm
I think the term started because the master CDs which are sent off to duplication used to be gold in color.
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Ding ding ding! Give that purple tentacle a cee-gar.  They were in fact on special gold CDs before "our scientists discovered CD Burning future tech #1"...
Gone Gold = released to manufacturing. Also called "RTM"
Launch = shipped from Atari's central distribution to stores. Some software companies call this "FCS" (First Customer Ship). Some stores receive the game directly. Others go through distribution centers that may delay the game's appearance for a week.
I fully expect some North American stores to have Civ Conquests in stock on November 4th. Call ahead, though... would you believe that many stores don't carry more than 5-10 copies of any given computer game (and sometimes only 1 or 2).
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Jeff Foley
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P.S. There's no naming consistency after "gone gold" and launch, but you'll sometimes see:
Game of the Year Edition = base game plus goodies
Special Edition = base game plus more goodies in a premium package
Gold Edition = base game plus first expansion pack
Deluxe Edition = base game plus several expansion packs (sometimes called Platinum Edition, not to be confused with an Xbox Platinum title, which is the equivalent of a PlayStation "Greatest Hits" title -- a best selling title at a reduced price.... confused yet?)
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October 30, 2003, 17:52
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Well, we can expect Deluxe Edition next year.
Can we?
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October 30, 2003, 18:25
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How about a deluxe edition with a certain number of copies containing a coupon for a free worldwide ticket to anywhere so we can encounter other "civilizations" first hand.
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October 30, 2003, 19:42
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Originally posted by player1
Well, we can expect Deluxe Edition next year.
Can we?
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What point would be to release an edition which contains both PtW and Conquests, if the latter contains the former anyway?
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October 30, 2003, 19:44
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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
What point would be to release an edition which contains both PtW and Conquests, if the latter contains the former anyway?
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Never underestimate the marketing savvy of InfroGreed.
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October 30, 2003, 20:13
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Jeff we are well aware that many game stores (EB/GameStop) carry only a few copies of a given game (if that). You can find 20 Diablo I and II and all forms they made and zero for a game that came out last week.
Ghengis, there is no longer any InfroGreed, it is just greed now.
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October 30, 2003, 23:28
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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
What point would be to release an edition which contains both PtW and Conquests, if the latter contains the former anyway?
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Maybe Civ3, C3C, and a new XP
I'm sure that, no matter how many features are added, people would want more.
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October 31, 2003, 03:42
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What point would be to release an edition which contains both PtW and Conquests, if the latter contains the former anyway?
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that it would be one box (with a new cover!) rather than two
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October 31, 2003, 07:18
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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
What point would be to release an edition which contains both PtW and Conquests, if the latter contains the former anyway?
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What point is of Gold edition which has PtW when original PtW disc includes PtW?
Gold & Deluxe editions are for new players and collectionars.
Since it would probably include both original disc (important for new players), PtW and C3C content in one package (maybe even bonus disc too).
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October 31, 2003, 12:25
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Good news,beeing released 14 Nov in Europe...I think since 4 Nov a bug thread could start and at middle December we can ask for a patch,that , despiting the goodness  of the first release it could be necessary.
Anyway good news indeed
Gunter
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October 31, 2003, 12:49
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I think since 4 Nov a bug thread could start and at middle December we can ask for a patch,that , despiting the goodness of the first release it could be necessary.
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My money of such thread being created is on nov the 5
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October 31, 2003, 23:20
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Well it's a happy day for Firaxis.
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November 2, 2003, 13:48
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Limited Editions
Can anyone tell me why 'Limited Editions' of a game are so difficult to get outside of the US? I managed to get the limited edition of Civ III despite lots of noise about retailers not being allowed to ship it outside the US. Now I notice that games carry little messgaes saying that they will not post these items outside the US.
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November 3, 2003, 12:37
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I doubt it will run on my PC
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